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To: geode00 who wrote (172269)10/10/2005 5:26:30 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
All Roads Lead to Rove
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The revelation that Karl Rove was Time's "double super secret" source for the outing of C.I.A. operative Valerie Plame started the unfolding of a much bigger story: what the White House did to sell the Iraq war. And the greatest irony of Rovegate? That the press was part of the cover-up

By MICHAEL WOLFF

There was, all of a sudden, a sense of … quiet.

Possibly awe.

Possibly panic.

Days after it was out, after it was everywhere—my 17-year-old daughter was haughtily criticizing me for not knowing Rove was the culprit (I said, "I knew, I knew, really, I knew")—The New York Times was still silent on the matter.

At the White House, it took the better part of a week from the initial reports that Time reporter Matt Cooper had indeed spoken to Karl Rove for the press corps to question Scott McClellan, the president's spokesman, with any insistence—but, but … Scott … you said … the president said …

The sheer fabulousness of it seemed to give everybody pause. News professionals often have to be hit over the head relentlessly with one of the biggest stories of their careers to understand it's actually one of the biggest stories of their careers. Nobody believed that the president's right-hand man, his brain, his Haldeman and Ehrlichman rolled into one, his id and superego, would leave his fingerprints … everywhere.

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To: geode00 who wrote (172269)10/15/2005 4:33:32 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
I hardly call it "progressive" to propose plunging a country of 20 million people into utter chaos and violent anarchy.

we ignored and still ignore the massive corruption and cronyism of this war and now....

I thought that John Locke was the progressive.. What you're descibing sounds pretty Hobbsian to me..

It's time for the rightwing of this country to stand up and take responsibility for this war and all of its outcomes from the first lie to the end.

And of course, Clinton bears NO responsibility for his lack of "assertiveness" with regard to Saddam's deliberate violation of the UN cease fire that ended Desert Storm?

And how about the UNSC? They voted quite overwhelmingly in support of UNSC 1441, which declared Iraq in "Material Breach" of those cease fire conditions.

Do they bear any responsibility for the lies they purveyed?

Hawk