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To: Rambi who wrote (142605)10/12/2005 1:54:01 PM
From: miraje  Respond to of 793917
 
I am not rabid about separation of church and state. For instance, I believe that much of our literary and musical heritage heavily relies on the Church and should be included in curricula. But it is this kind of event that shows us how we can't rely on the common sense of adults to know what is appropriate and when it is. He wasn't asked to deny his faith, merely to respect the law and his players. Making him the victim in this is missing the entire point.

Very well put. My sentiments exactly.

-JB



To: Rambi who wrote (142605)10/12/2005 1:56:08 PM
From: D. Long  Respond to of 793917
 
If he couldn't live by them, he should have worked on change, or not taken the job- or worked in a parochial school perhaps

I don't disagree with you, it's probably a no-no under the Establishment Clause. But it's such an old tradition that I foresee alot of fireworks.

Derek



To: Rambi who wrote (142605)10/12/2005 2:05:33 PM
From: DMaA  Respond to of 793917
 
Our national policy of funneling 99% of funding for primary education through government schools effectively renders the "free exercise" part of the Establishment Clause moot with respect to children's education.

or worked in a parochial school perhaps.



To: Rambi who wrote (142605)10/12/2005 4:18:11 PM
From: Thomas A Watson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793917
 
I have coached and I have watched many coaches. Good coaches know their players. I never used prayer. But I saw coaches who used it in a very natural way. There was nothing divisive. It was little different than walking or warming up in a regiment.

And the most important aspect of sports are the value lesson one learns that apply to the game of life.

I have no reason to conclude this coach did anything wrong and he violated no law. I know of no law regarding separation of church and state, except in the imagination of some.



To: Rambi who wrote (142605)10/12/2005 8:10:15 PM
From: KLP  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 793917
 
A moment of silence before a game would have accomplished the same thing, and should have offended no one. No words outloud spoken. Helps the team to become a team, by collecting themselves quietly.