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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68421)	10/16/2005 6:56:17 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

chinu. You said..."Can you ever dream that Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell would agree to live side by side with Islam!!"..... Not them two IMO they are both a couple of religious nutballs but they do not represent the thoughts of all Christian people anymore that bin stupid represents the thoughts of all muslims. You said...."Bush had an opportunity to prove that his war is not against Islam when he could have fired Lt. Gen. Boykin who clearly stated that this is a war against Islam"..... Bush has said repeatedly that islam is a religion of peace and you think firing a career general for speaking his mind which he has the right to do will convince islam that the war is not against them?. You are free to speak your hate of Bush on a public forum so do others have the right to speak their mind..... free speech remember/ You said...."There is nothing called radical Islam.".... No kidding! wow I didn't know that. you better pass along this little tib bit of info to the countries of the world that are fighting this filth. I'm surprised you were not aware of radical islam and I am surprised that you do not separate radical islam from the so called moderate islam. Guess you think they are all one and the same. You said...."Your posts in the past highlighted European nations who are thinking of passing legislation to ban the 'hijab' and other traditional Muslim forms of clothing and appearance. You did not denounce it. On the contrary you indicated that "Europe is finally waking upto the scrouge of Islam.""..... That's because I agree with those measures...just like ACLU getting rid of religious symbols in the good ole USA...don't you think so? Not that I agree with all that the ACLU does. you said...."So quit being a hypocrite. Stand up for your beliefs and be ready to die for it if necessary.".... I always stand up for what I believe in and openly say so. I have told you repeatedly my opinions of islam and all organized religions and you are well aware of this. You figure calling me a hypocrite will make you soud like a good guy? grow up, everyone here knows what you are up to and what your agenda is. So you think there is no radical islam? what would you call them?

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68421)	10/16/2005 9:32:31 PM
From: Richnorth	Respond to of 81568

Here is a very interesting read from rense.com. It might have been posted earlier. But I think it bears a re-posting, especially for those who might have missed reading it. 'Moslem Terrorism' Is Fabricated By Intel Agencies Commentary By Tim Beasley Canberra, Australia 10-16-5 Dear Mr. Rense, Thanks for posting the articles about the corrupt Indonesian military-fabricated Bali bombing, alleged to be financed by Western Intelligence Agencies. Australians were devastatingly overwhelmed last week to find out that probably 88 Australians were massacred in Bali (as Joe Vialls suggested), just to create anti-Moslem hysteria among the Australian public in order to support sending Australian troops to Bush's Iraq war. This SBS-TV documentary's indisputable evidence was the interview with the former Indonesian President who stated with absolute confidence that Indonesian military and/or police executed the Bali bombing operation! That interview with this most and only honest Indonesian politician was the straw that broke the camel's back of every single Australian I have talked to since. This left we Australians with a perplexing dilemma. We must now select one of only two choices as to who is telling the truth: our Australian politicians or the former Indonesian President (who is undisputedly honest). I contacted 6 of my friends who watched this documentary and all of them agreed that if they had to choose, they would trust the honest Indonesian former President over our current Australian politicians, hands down. Thanks to your website and other similar sites, we now know that most international events are staged today by Western Intelligence Agencies. I still remember the famous article about the mysterious stolen American cars having 'materialised' in Iraq found being prepared for 'suicide bombing'. aljazeera.com Who delivered these cars all the way from America to Iraq? Definitely not the 'Moslem terrorists' as they can very easily steal cars in Europe and the Middle East...as it is very common in these countries. We all remember how the two British SAS men were caught in Basra, Iraq red-handed driving a booby-trapped car. rense.com We also now know that two American commandos were caught red-handed preparing a 'suicide car' in Baghdad. iraqwar.mirror-world.ru The above cases are just the tip of an iceberg of deceit and death. There are many more similar reports by international news agencies. I would not be surprised if most suicide bombings in Iraq are the works of Intelligence Agencies...Israeli, US, British...causing horror and mayhem to perpetuate our hold on Iraqi oil and what's left of that God forsaken country forever. Now, finally, all the cards are on the table. Everything is perfectly clear. I am not going to weep for the Moslem countries - corrupt politicians control them all. If Moslem countries chose to commit suicide by keeping silent for years and keep cooperating with the West in exchange for short-term monetary gains, it is their problem. It's all over now, its too late! Moslems leaders knew from day one that 911 was an inside job, and not a single one of them protested against us fabricating hate crimes against Moslems. Not only that, they knew the Moslem leadership practically participated in 911 (see Bush flying all the Saudi royalty family out of the USA on 911 - even when all air space over the USA was shut down). No! You will not find me shedding crocodile tears for Moslem countries, they are getting what their 'leaders' give them. rense.com No More Crocodile Tears For Moslem Countries! Since 911, and particularly the assassination of Dr. Kelly, astute readers must understand that our modern world is run EXCLUSIVELY by Western Intelligence Agencies. We should accept it and learn to live with it. The entire BS about 'democracy' should be left to Intelligence Agency fronts such as Condi, CNN, Fox 'news' and the BBC (British Bullshit Corporation). We are now totally under the control of the NWO and we better get used to it. geocities.com We Australians like to complain about our politicians being stupid, uninformed or under American pressure. I would like to remind my Australian countrymen and women that we are now in the middle of WW3. We Westerners are at war against the Moslem world + China + Russia. There is NO mistake about it. A million thanks to the brave and honest journalists at SBS-TV-Australia, who produced this once in a lifetime documentary which is turning our history upside down, and puts to shame all American 'journalism'! Regards, Tim Beasley Canberra Australia

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68421)	10/16/2005 9:42:30 PM
From: Richnorth	Respond to of 81568

To be fair, I guess I should also post the following article taken from the same source, rense.com. *Cars stolen in US used in suicide attacks* By Bryan Bender in Washington The FBI's counterterrorism unit has launched a broad investigation of US-based theft rings after discovering some vehicles used in deadly car bombings in Iraq, including attacks that killed US troops and Iraqi civilians, were probably stolen in the United States, according to senior US Government officials. The FBI's deputy assistant director for counterterrorism, Inspector John Lewis, said the investigation did not prove the vehicles were stolen specifically for car bombings in the Middle East, but there was evidence they were smuggled out of the US by organised criminal networks that included terrorists and insurgents. Cracking the car-theft rings and tracing the cars could help identify insurgent leaders and shut down one of the means used to attack the US-led coalition and the Iraqi Government, the officials said. The inquiry began after coalition troops raided a Falluja bomb factory last November and found a Texas-registered four-wheel-drive being prepared for a bombing mission. Investigators said there were several other cases where vehicles evidently stolen in the US wound up in Syria or other Middle Eastern countries and ultimately in the hands of Iraqi insurgent groups, including al-Qaeda in Iraq. AdvertisementInvestigators believed the cars were stolen by local car thieves in US cities, then smuggled to waiting ships at ports in Los Angeles, Seattle, and Houston, among other cities. Terrorism specialists said they believed Iraqi insurgents preferred American stolen cars because they tended to be larger, blended in more easily with US convoys, and were harder to identify as stolen. The Boston Globe