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To: jttmab who wrote (172666)	10/17/2005 1:42:10 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

:-) I think Mike was imagining liberals who would kiss Saddam, rather than thinking about any real conservatives who actually did. But I'm guessing here- I've no idea what he really saw, because he won't post any URLS. All I know is he said "It's interesting to see so many willing to put their head in the sand and pretend Saddam was running a utopian paradise where butcher, murder, rape and genocide never took place. " I've never seen anyone, conservative or liberal, say anything remotely like that, even allowing for the hyperbole of "utopia".

To: jttmab who wrote (172666)	10/17/2005 1:44:55 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

By golly, yer right. found support for SH...seems Ray Gun was a big fan of the dude, too. willowpondlane.com I'm surprised he couldn't find a link; only about 1.6 mil... ==http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=Rumsfeld+%2B+Saddam+photo&btnG=Google+Search ========================================================== U.S. DOCUMENTS SHOW EMBRACE OF SADDAM HUSSEIN IN EARLY 1980s DESPITE CHEMICAL WEAPONS, EXTERNAL AGGRESSION, HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES Fear of Iraq Collapse in Iran-Iraq War Motivated Reagan Administration Support; U.S. Goals Were Access to Oil, Projection of Power, and Protection of Allies; Rumsfeld Failed to Raise Chemical Weapons Issue in Personal Meeting with Saddam Washington, D.C., 25 February 2003 - The National Security Archive at George Washington University today published on the Web a series of declassified U.S. documents detailing the U.S. embrace of Saddam Hussein in the early 1980's, including the renewal of diplomatic relations that had been suspended since 1967. The documents show that during this period of renewed U.S. support for Saddam, he had invaded his neighbor (Iran), had long-range nuclear aspirations that would "probably" include "an eventual nuclear weapon capability," harbored known terrorists in Baghdad, abused the human rights of his citizens, and possessed and used chemical weapons on Iranians and his own people. The U.S. response was to renew ties, to provide intelligence and aid to ensure Iraq would not be defeated by Iran, and to send a high-level presidential envoy named Donald Rumsfeld to shake hands with Saddam (20 December 1983). The declassified documents posted today include the briefing materials and diplomatic reporting on two Rumsfeld trips to Baghdad, reports on Iraqi chemical weapons use concurrent with the Reagan administration's decision to support Iraq, and decision directives signed by President Reagan that reveal the specific U.S. priorities for the region: preserving access to oil, expanding U.S. ability to project military power in the region, and protecting local allies from internal and external threats. gwu.edu