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To: Peter Dierks who wrote (707625)10/18/2005 1:00:38 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Respond to of 769670
 
LOL!!!!!!!!!

Re: "you have explained repeatedly that you do not understand accounting"

Guess Forbes and CATO.ORG haven't any ability to understand accounting or fiscal issues either! :)

You are a CARD, Peter!

I've repeatedly challenged you to state *what tax system* you would support... but all that comes back is blather and hostility.

Ah well... guess you've just got nothing to show.



To: Peter Dierks who wrote (707625)10/18/2005 3:27:07 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Respond to of 769670
 
Bush's Panel May Propose Version of Flat Tax in Final Report

By Ryan J. Donmoyer
bloomberg.com

Oct. 18 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. President George W. Bush's tax advisory panel may recommend a fundamental overhaul of the current system, replacing it with a variation of the flat tax that would abolish most deductions and end levies on investment income.

The panel plans to present Bush with several options for restructuring the tax code, including the creation of a new system that rewards savings, discourages borrowing, stimulates business investment, and simplifies tax filing for individuals, according to panel members and outside experts on whom they relied. The modified flat-tax proposal will be considered and possibly endorsed during the panel's final meeting today, they said.

``I would bet big money'' that panelists will recommend such a plan, said William Gale, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a research group in Washington, who testified before the panel.

Such a system would face an uphill battle for congressional approval because it would impose a radical reordering of tax rules for companies, financial markets and the economy. The plan would also raise concerns about whether it would shift the tax burden from wealthy individuals to salaried employees, experts said. Proponents say the new system would be simpler and would promote economic growth by encouraging savings and investment.

``I think it's going to land with a thud,'' said Pamela F. Olson, a lawyer at Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & Flom LLP in Washington, who served as assistant secretary for tax policy in Bush's Treasury Department from 2002 to 2004.

Borrowing Costs

Under the proposal, U.S. companies would stop issuing bonds, municipalities would face higher borrowing costs, the housing and life insurance industries would become less attractive to investors, Olson and other experts said. No one is quite certain how financial services companies would be taxed, they said.

Individuals living off investments would pay nothing, while wage earners would continue to have taxes withheld from their paychecks; people earning higher salaries would pay higher rates without the benefit of popular deductions, such as breaks for mortgage interest.

The President's Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform, formed in January, is due to make its recommendations to the Treasury Department on Nov. 1. Chairman Connie Mack, a former Republican senator from Florida, has said it will offer at least two proposals that the Bush administration can use as a blueprint for a rewrite of the tax code.

Top Priority

White House officials and congressional Republicans have indicated that Bush may make tax overhaul his top domestic priority next year. With the demise of his Social Security revision plan and conservative resistance to immigration changes, there may be few other options.

A second, less-ambitious tax option the panel is considering would aim to simplify the current system by repealing the alternative minimum tax and curbing dozens of tax breaks, including popular ones benefiting homeowners and those receiving employer-provided health care.

The panel last week rejected recommending a national sales tax, a step advocated by congressional Republicans such as Georgia Representative John Linder and South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint.

The panel's staff director, Jeff Kupfer, said the flat-tax proposal the panel will consider today is a variation of the so- called ``X tax'' devised by David Bradford, an economist at Princeton University in New Jersey who died in February.

Leading Option

Four of the panel's members -- Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist James Poterba, Stanford University economist Ed Lazear, Charles Schwab & Co. Inc. chief investment strategist Liz Ann Sonders and former Louisiana Senator John Breaux -- have been studying Bradford's proposal as a leading option for fundamental overhaul of the current system.

Bradford's proposal, which panel member Charles Rossotti described on Oct. 5 as a ``framework'' for deliberations, is a variation of the original flat tax devised by Stanford economists Robert Hall and Alvin Rabushka in the early 1980s. It has two parts, a business tax and a wage tax.

The ``X tax'' proposal would end taxation of investment income and interest deductions for businesses and individuals. It would also set a single rate for all businesses and allow unlimited write-offs for equipment purchases. Individuals would be taxed only on their wages.

In his proposal, Bradford set graduated tax rates on wages with a top rate of less than 30 percent, while the Hall and Rabushka proposal sets a single rate of about 19 percent on all wages over a set amount of about $41,000 for a family of four.

Under both systems, individuals would pay no taxes on interest, dividends or capital gains. They also would lose deductions for home mortgage interest, charitable contributions and state and local taxes.

Not Taxable

``Things that some people have come to view as income and are used to being taxed on would not be taxable anymore,'' said Joel Slemrod, director of the Office of Tax Policy Research at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor and a former member of President Ronald Reagan's Council of Economic Advisers.

Gale said Bradford's proposal to allow graduated rates on wages ``is an effort to take the flat tax and make it more progressive.'' To forestall taxpayer opposition triggered by the loss of the home-mortgage deduction, Gale said panelists might preserve incentives for homeownership by providing a tax credit instead.

Leveraged Companies

The flat-tax idea represents an even more radical change for businesses, and not all of them would benefit, especially highly leveraged companies and those that lose money, analysts said.

All businesses would pay at a rate equal to the top rate for individuals, eliminating current differences between large corporations and small businesses. Businesses would pay tax on the sale of all goods and services and receive no deductions except for wages paid. Interest, dividends and capital gains would be tax-free.

The plan's ``central feature'' is abolition of deductions for interest paid, Gale said. ``If you don't take away interest deduction, the whole thing doesn't work.''

Michael Decker, senior vice president for research and public policy at the Bond Market Association in Washington, said such a proposal would make it less attractive for companies to borrow money and cause a reordering of the fixed-income securities market. Companies would race to retire high-interest notes, and municipal-bond yields would rise as investors devalue their tax-favored status and bid down prices.

``You would be shifting some of the tax preference away from debt, toward equity,'' Decker said. ``You would probably see some recapitalization, especially highly leveraged companies.''



To: Peter Dierks who wrote (707625)10/18/2005 5:43:37 PM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Tax overhaul suggestions weighed: Bush panel will send president two proposals

By William L. Watts, MarketWatch
Last Update: 5:28 PM ET Oct. 18, 2005
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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) - A federal advisory panel on Tuesday indicated it would send President Bush two proposals to overhaul the U.S. tax code - one designed to significantly simplify the income tax, and another that would largely replace the current system with a modified consumption tax.

Either approach would leave Americans' tax burdens largely unchanged, panel members said at their final public meeting, and would be expected to eliminate many tax-preparation headaches and unleash stronger economic growth.

But the proposals would also alter or do away with a host of popular tax deductions, obstacles that have traditionally made efforts to overhaul the tax code a politically difficult job.

The nine-member President's Advisory Panel on Federal Tax Reform must submit its formal recommendations to the Treasury Department by Nov. 1.

Simplification

The committee's plan to simplify the federal tax code would create new accounts to encourage retirement and family savings, replacing 401(k) and many other retirement savings plans, echoing proposals touted by Bush in his first-term.

It would eliminate taxation of Social Security benefits, would do away with taxation of income from corporate dividends and would slash capital-gains tax rates.

It would institute a "family credit" that would replace and simplify child-related tax deductions. It would also institute a "work credit" for low-income working families to replace the earned-income tax credit and the refundable child credit.

The proposal reduces the number of income-tax brackets from six to four, and slashes the top individual income-tax rate to 33% from 35%. Around 75% of filers would be in the lowest 15% bracket, said panel member Charles Rossotti, a former Internal Revenue Service Commissioner, who helped draft the proposal.

The plan would do away with depreciation provisions for small businesses, allowing them to immediately write off capital purchases. The corporate tax rate would fall from 32% from 35%.

It also tax corporate profits on a "territorial" basis, eliminating tax paid by U.S.-based multinationals on income from foreign operations.

The plan eliminates taxes on corporate dividends paid to individuals, and excludes three-quarters of the capital gain on corporate stocks held for more than a year from taxation. It would raise the exclusion on capital gains on the sale of a primary home to $600,000 for couples, up from $500,000. Other capital gains would be taxed as personal income.

And the plan eliminates the alternative-minimum tax, or AMT, a parallel tax system that threatens to encompass a growing number of middle-class taxpayers year after year.

AMT elimination carries a heavy price tag, however. Budget watchers estimate the move will reduce revenues by $1.2 trillion over the next 10 years.

Panel members have targeted a range of popular tax deductions that would help make up the revenue loss. They argue that the changes to deductions for home-mortgage interest, employer-provided health insurance and state and local taxes will be more equitable and economically efficient.

Under current law, taxpayers can deduct interest on home mortgages up to $1 million - a measure that some economists argue goes beyond the goal of encouraging homeownership and instead encourages the purchase of ever-larger homes. The panel's proposal would convert the deduction into a tax credit, which would extend its benefits to lower-income Americans who don't currently itemize their deductions.

It would also put a cap on the size of mortgages subject to the credit. The level would vary by region.

Similarly, the proposal would cap the amount of health insurance that businesses can provide to workers tax-free. Any benefits above $11,500 for families and $5,000 for individuals would be subject to tax, as well as many other fringe benefits such as life insurance.

Some lawmakers have already begun to protest the proposed changes, many of which were signaled at the panel's public meeting last week. See earlier story.

Sen. Charles Schumer of New York, a Democrat who serves on the tax-writing Senate Finance Committee, immediately issued a news release slamming the proposal to eliminate the deduction for state and local income taxes, charging it would "impose a new $12 billion tax on the people of New York."

But panel members said such concerns fail to take into account the fact that many of the taxpayers likely to be affected by the changes already are or soon would be subject to the alternative minimum tax, which would have disqualified them from taking advantages of a number of existing deductions anyway.

While the changes sound daunting, Rossotti said the proposal would result in a much simpler and transparent tax code.

"Most taxpayers would be able to file on one page and at one [tax] rate," he said.

Modified consumption tax

The second proposal, which the panel dubbed a "progressive" consumption tax, incorporates many of the simplification proposals, but is more ambitious in scope.

The proposal includes the simplification plan's savings incentives. It would also tax all individual capital gains and other investment income at a 15% rate. The plan would install new tax brackets of 15%, 25%, 30% and 35% for wage income.

It would also significantly redraw the corporate tax code, instituting a territorial "cash-flow" tax system that would replace the depreciation system with immediate expensing of capital investments.

Proponents of a consumption tax contend it would encourage capital investment, which would boost economic growth and productivity gains, translating into an across-the-board improvement in the standard of living.

"The whole economic pie would be larger," said panel member James Poterba, a Massachusetts Institute of Technology economist and an architect of the consumption-tax plan.

Panel member Elizabeth Garrett, a professor at the University of Southern California, said she would probably be able to endorse the plan, but wants to review analyses of how the change would affect the overall stock burden.

The panel rejected a more straightforward consumption tax that would have excluded capital income from taxation, amid worries that such a plan would exclude wealthy Americans who derive all of their income from investments from the tax rolls.

"It seems to me you would have some people who have no tax burden at all said former Sen. John Breaux, a Louisiana Democrat and vice chairman of the panel. "Many of them would be at the very, very top of the income stream. I'm not sure I'm very comfortable trying to sell that."

William L. Watts covers Congress and politics for MarketWatch.



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