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Biotech / Medical : SARS and Avian Flu -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: energyplay who wrote (2815)	10/18/2005 5:35:48 AM
From: Elroy Jetson	Respond to of 4232

I think you would have to be depressed already to have Amantadine depress you. Everyone is different, but for me it is like taking some sort of sleeping pill or what I imagine a tranquilizer to be like - very sedated. Its not my favorite feeling nor my favorite drug, but hardly enough to make you depressed let alone suicidal. I suspect many Valium addicts actually pay good money to feel that way. I think the effect of Interferon-alpha are less disagreeable, although it does make you feel like crap, but interferon also makes you sad and a little depressed - its a bio-chemical cause and effect. Very amazing to watch your mood change, knowing in advance that it will. Its funny to realize how much of your perception of the world can be changed by cytokines released by your immune system. When your body is under biological attack, your immune system wants you unambitious and at home in bed. * * * * * * * * * * * * * I didn't notice the absolute reference to Amantadine Rimantadine not working against H5N1 in the Sydney Morning Herald list. Since it still works on most H5N1 isolates. I can't say why that's included. I noticed this August 12, 2005 report from Henry's site shows that Lancet got this drug resistance information wrong as well. Lancet being the British "New England Journal of Medicine", this might be where they got the information. Its tough when the virus and information changes so quickly, and subject to later revisions. recombinomics.com At $1 per pill, Amantadine / Rimantadine are both far less expensive than Relenza or Tamiflu at $6.50 per pill - which Australia has stocked up. So its not like they're trying to direct people to less expensive drugs - which I suspect the Medicare system (government) probably pays for as they do for most drugs. * * * * * * * * * * * * * Australia signed the Biological Weapons Convention, which eliminates work on or stockpiling of weapons of biological warfare, in 1972 and chairs the Australia Group set up to monitor compliance. australiagroup.net The United States refused to sign the accord. Accordingly, the Australian military should not have a biological warfare group and you won't find a "Fort Dietrich" in Australia doing Nazi style research. You don't realize how militarized the United States, Russia, and Britain are until you spend enough time elsewhere. Australia does have a very robust bio-tech research and development program, mostly focused around Australian universities. They have developed their own 24 hour quick ELISA PCR test for known variants of H5N1. Melbourne-based bio-pharmaceutical company CSL Ltd developed a H5N1 vaccine under contract to the Australian Health Ministry, which may be given nationwide in six months time. csl.com.au I think you'll find in general, that in Australia there is less suspicion of the United Nations and WHO, than there is here in the U.S. - where many see both as some sort of dark conspiracy. Australian researchers do have their own contacts at the CDC, since its a large lab, but no special arrangement with them like WHO does. .

To: energyplay who wrote (2815)	10/18/2005 8:05:26 AM
From: Think4Yourself	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4232

I have read numerous articles about treatment in the 117 infected. Most referenced 4 drugs for influenza: Relenza, Tamiflu, Amantadine, and another one I don't remember. I don't remember the other one, or speak of Amantadine, because all the articles said they have been shown to be ineffective against the current outbreak. They are still supposedly effective against other strains. I agree Russia probably has considerable data. Some of these infected birds are migrating from Siberia.