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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: American Spirit who wrote (68489)10/18/2005 1:16:34 PM
From: Dan B.Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
Cheney said he believes the insurgency was in it's last throes, not that it was without question. Big difference. We've been through this already, and your willingness to continue to mis-state it makes you as great a liar as you think Cheney is.

When it comes to WMD's, not only do you NOT know just what was or wasn't true, particularly when it comes to hosting Al Qaeda training camps (for which there remains compelling evidence), but given that so many others spoke exactly as Cheney did, we can see that either they were all liars, or all as "scary" as you think he is.

Dan B.



To: American Spirit who wrote (68489)10/18/2005 2:25:54 PM
From: mistermjRead Replies (1) | Respond to of 81568
 
pandering to the far right hawks by portraying John Kerry was some kind of traitor and pansy

Well...you be the judge. Notice where the link comes from? The Democrats slit their own throats...no need for Republicans to do it.

hillaryforpresident-2008.com

Nice photo op John! ;-)



To: American Spirit who wrote (68489)10/19/2005 12:40:35 PM
From: RichnorthRespond to of 81568
 
Some more interesting stuff:-

More Bali Bombing
Corroborative Evidence

By Brian Leonard
Golightly Marshall
FreeMarketNews.com
10-18-5

Yes, it is true, it was aired again today at 1 PM October 17th 2005. There have been several reports over the years of atrocities concerning the Indonesian police and military. Informed Australians many former Federal Police have spoken out only to be silenced.

The Bali bombing was not two bombs but three, and the main bomb was what is called a Sedam which is used to detonate hydrogen bombs. Only a few countries detonate such hydrogen weapons and one therefore must have supplied the Sedam which was placed in a drain near the van packed with plastic military explosives. It was exposed by Joe Villas an ex military man who was later killed in Perth.

The explosive force was witnessed by a friend of mine, and expert in explosives: It produced a white ball of light 150 feet across and blew concrete off buildings 200 feet from the epicentre. The expansion of a Sedam is 1 million feet per second, while plastic explosives are under 3500 feet per second. 47 building were flattened not one as commonly reported.

The war on terror is a sham, just another in the "wars" the Western powers invent to keep the masses subservient through a sociopolitical manipulation known as the Hegelian Dialectic.

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Ed note: In this strategy, the manipulative power offers two " opposing "points of view" to promote the idea of choice but nudges both toward the desired goal. Initially, for instance, a society can be offered a choice between "a little tax" and "no tax," then between "a little tax" and "more tax," and finally between "more tax," and "a lot of tax" - with successive generations gradually moving toward the desired outcome. It is, thus, not a strategy for the impatient but (absent a rare technological breakthrough that allows subjects to inform one another of the manipulation) achieves over time the desired result; that is, to convince those acted upon that they and their forefathers moved in the appropriate direction through a considered series of choices using free will.

freemarketnews.com