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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (51329)10/20/2005 12:09:47 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 59480
 
who is she ? another foul mouth demohack ?



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (51329)10/20/2005 2:19:51 PM
From: Hope Praytochange  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 59480
 
kennyboy mentally depressed: Jobless Claims Plunge

Reuters
Thursday, October 20, 2005; 8:33 AM

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The number of unemployed U.S. workers asking for initial jobless aid fell a larger-than-expected 35,000 last week on the back of fewer hurricane-related claims, the government said on Thursday.

First-time jobless claims, a rough guide to the pace of layoffs, fell for the second straight week, dropping to 355,000 the week ended October 15 from a revised 390,000 the previous week, the Labor Department said.


Labor attributed about 40,000 of the new claims to people put out of work by hurricanes Katrina and Rita, bringing the cumulative total of claims stemming from the storms to 478,000 since September 3.

The weekly number of claims fell farther than economists' forecast for 368,000, and was also down from the original reading of 389,000 the week ended October 8.

The closely watched four-week moving average of claims, which many consider a better measure of the unemployment situation because it flattens weekly volatility, also dropped for the second straight week.

The four-week moving average fell to 376,000 the week ended October 15 from 396,000 and to its lowest level in more than a month.

The number of people who remain on the benefit rolls after having already received a week of assistance rose 36,000 to 2.89 million in the week to Oct 8, the latest week for which figures are available. This was the measure's highest level since 2.90 million the week ended August 7, 2004.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (51329)10/20/2005 4:57:38 PM
From: GROUND ZERO™  Respond to of 59480
 
How so?

GZ



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (51329)10/20/2005 10:18:10 PM
From: sandintoes  Respond to of 59480
 
She has been used to the point of idiocy and she doesn't know it.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (51329)10/21/2005 12:58:29 AM
From: Hope Praytochange  Respond to of 59480
 
homelesskennyboy: Clintons Give Ferrer a Hand While Staying at Arm's Length
By PATRICK D. HEALY
For New York Democrats seeking to take back City Hall, it was supposed to be a picture-perfect moment: Bill Clinton in the Bronx yesterday to rally voters behind Fernando Ferrer, the party's beleaguered candidate against Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.

But a run-of-the-mill campaign stop turned into a bizarre frenzy after the Clinton team removed the entire sound system during a dispute with low-level Ferrer supporters, who were trying to make the event more dramatic. As a result, a crowd of 1,000 people could barely hear Mr. Clinton praise "this good man."

The moment was a telling example of the odd intersection between the former president and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, who are the unofficial royal couple of New York Democrats, and the party's mayoral nominee.

Their star power has overshadowed him at times, and their smoothness has left him looking like a B-list candidate after mishaps like yesterday's, some New York Democrats say. The Clintons like Mr. Ferrer personally and are disappointed that he is struggling, but they also do not want to become entangled in his problems, according to political associates and people who have spoken to them about the mayoral race.

The Clintons are trying to avoid being embarrassed by a lopsided Democratic defeat on their home turf on Nov. 8, these associates say. In a series of delicate calculations, the couple are doing everything the Ferrer campaign has asked of them, but little more than that. Tonight, Mrs. Clinton is to hold what will probably be the single biggest fund-raiser of Mr. Ferrer's campaign, which could bring in as much as $100,000. Yet some prominent Democratic donors say the Clintons have not sent the usual winks and nods signaling that they view Mr. Ferrer as a winner whom contributors should shower with money.

Senator Clinton, who is seeking re-election next year and is a possible presidential candidate in 2008, is concerned that Mr. Ferrer has performed unevenly, and she has nothing to gain by alienating a popular incumbent mayor who holds a comfortable double-digit lead in the polls and is well liked by many Democrats, associates and allies say.

"Like all of Freddy's supporters, she knows this is an uphill battle," said one aide to Senator Clinton, who spoke on condition of anonymity because Mrs. Clinton is officially optimistic about Mr. Ferrer's bid. "But she has seen and been a part of many campaigns in her lifetime, and knows that there's a reason we wait until Election Day to declare a winner."

It is already clear that the Clintons have not worked as hard publicly as they did in 2001 on behalf of the Democratic mayoral nominee. While Mr. Clinton campaigned three times with that candidate, Mark Green, advisers to the former president say it is not clear if he will do anything more than yesterday's campaign stop except record automated phone calls for Mr. Ferrer.

Part of the reason is that the Ferrer campaign has been vague about its needs, Mr. Clinton's aides said; Mr. Ferrer's aides waited two weeks after winning the nomination to reach out to Mr. Clinton, Mr. Clinton's associates said, and even then it was hard to find a good day for an event. Mr. Clinton has been traveling for much of the last five weeks, and he is also trying to stay above the partisan fray and focus on his AIDS and antipoverty projects, his associates say.

On a staff-to-staff level, Mrs. Clinton's top aide in New York City, Karen Persichilli Keogh, speaks nearly every day with Mr. Ferrer's chief strategist, Roberto Ramirez, or other aides, yet the senator has joined Mr. Ferrer at only two events in the five weeks since he won the nomination.

She has stuck to the Ferrer campaign's talking points for her but has chosen not to criticize Mr. Bloomberg's ties to President Bush, though some Ferrer aides wish she would do so. New York's other senator, Charles E. Schumer, has campaigned twice with Mr. Ferrer so far.

"Senator Clinton has worked hard for Freddy Ferrer and has done everything asked of her, and will continue to do so," said Philippe Reines, a spokesman for her. If Mr. Ferrer loses, many Democrats expect blame to be spread around, and Mrs. Clinton, like other prominent elected officials, does not want to be caught up in the recriminations, her allies say. Because of that, and because she viewed Mr. Ferrer as especially loyal during her 2000 Senate campaign, she has been determined to stand by his side, aides say.

Her political camp also wants to protect her good standing among Hispanic and black voters, many of whom want to elect Mr. Ferrer as the first Hispanic mayor of New York. They are a base that would be essential to her Senate re-election effort next year and perhaps to a presidential run. "It's important right now for Democrats to be Democrats and stand for Freddy Ferrer, and it is important for Senator Clinton to be seen doing everything she can to help his campaign," said Steve McMahon, a media consultant who has advised New York Democrats. "In terms of how it affects Hillary Clinton, in '06 or '08, it's obviously better to have a Democratic mayor of the city."

But there are also limits on how much either Clinton can do to help Mr. Ferrer if he cannot help himself and turn around his campaign, some leading Democrats say.

"There's a particular burden that both Clintons carry with them - people think somehow that their enormous popularity is transferable," said Judith Hope, a former chairwoman of the state Democratic Party, who played an influential role in Mrs. Clinton's 2000 Senate race. "It isn't, really, for Freddy, or for any candidate."

The Clintons and the Ferrer camp have sought to tap her popularity to benefit Mr. Ferrer, and Mrs. Clinton even appears willing to do commercials for him. Yet at the same time the Clintons have been concerned with overshadowing a relatively staid Mr. Ferrer.

Such was the case Monday at a Midtown luncheon with about 1,00 women: Mrs. Clinton's staff had gone out of their way to win a speaking role for Mr. Ferrer and they even ignored the printed program so she could fire up the crowd and introduce him. Mr. Ferrer came across as tired and vague sounding, some Democrats said afterward, adding that they were flummoxed that the senator was supporting him.

"What we heard was, 'why is Hillary standing by this guy?' " one friend of Mrs. Clinton's said after the luncheon.

Two New Yorkers who are prominent donors to Democratic candidates, and who are part of the Clintons' fund-raising network, said in interviews that there was a subtle but crucial passivity to the Clintons' support for Mr. Ferrer.

"It's one thing for Hillary to organize a fund-raiser for Freddy and show up at it," said one of the donors, who spoke on condition of anonymity to preserve his relationships with Senator Clinton and Mr. Ferrer. "But she can call up her people for Freddy, mobilize her troops. People close to her or the president can organize fund-raisers so everyone knows Freddy is truly important to them. We know very clearly when she's invested in a race. We get those calls and e-mail, and we aren't getting them in this race.

"This isn't brain surgery," the donor continued. "When a race or a cause is important to the Clintons, they find a way to get it done."

Ferrer aides yesterday expressed delight with the Clintons' contributions. In interviews with other Democrats, some members of the New York Congressional delegation said that the Clintons were not leading a charge on Mr. Ferrer's behalf, but added that they had not done so for other candidates either.

"They're not beating the drum, but that's not their role," said Representative Jerrold Nadler, a Manhattan Democrat. "You offer yourself and you do what they ask you to do."

On a personal level, Mr. Ferrer's campaign presents opportunities and perils for the Clintons. According to their associates and confidants, they believe that a Hispanic nominee is good for New York Democrats, especially at a time when no ethnic group makes up a majority of the city's voters. They are also fond of him personally.

Yet neither Mrs. Clinton, whose team has helped shape the staff and agenda at the state party, nor the former president see Mr. Ferrer as a particularly imaginative or visionary Democratic thinker, her associates say. What is more, both Clintons have a good working and personal relationship with Mr. Bloomberg and do not want to damage it.

These associates say they see Mr. Bloomberg's unlimited campaign spending as a huge obstacle for Mr. Ferrer, but also worry that he does not have a winning political message, even if he had the money for more television ads. Mrs. Clinton has yet to be asked to film a commercial on Mr. Ferrer's behalf; some New York Democrats believe it is because his campaign lacks the money to spend on a major media purchase.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (51329)10/21/2005 1:00:20 AM
From: Hope Praytochange  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 59480
 
kennyboysnakeoiltrader: Oil at $60 on Signs of Weaker Demand
By REUTERS
Filed at 0:43 a.m. ET

SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Oil prices held around $60 on Friday after a 2.2 percent slide the previous day as U.S. oil and natural gas stocks swelled, revealing weaker demand in the world's top consumer.

U.S. light crude oil futures for December delivery eased 1 cent to $60.01 a barrel by 0405 GMT, after sliding to nearly a three-month low of $59.65. November crude expired $1.38 lower on Thursday at $61.03.

London Brent crude traded 21 cents lower at $57.70.

The slide came after U.S. data on Thursday showed a big rise in natural gas stocks, adding to a huge build in crude and a shock rise in gasoline inventories reported on Wednesday.

``Sentiment in the natural gas market has turned decidedly bearish on the basis of demand destruction -- and it may take a westerly turn by Hurricane Wilma or frigid temperatures to turn the tide,'' said JP Morgan in an energy report.

The U.S. crude stock-build took supplies nearly 12 percent above a year earlier, after hurricanes Rita and Katrina closed Gulf Coast refineries and slashed demand for the feedstock.

The U.S. data also showed a decline in total oil product demand deepening to 3.2 percent over the past four weeks, a bigger drop than last week's 2.8 percent, although gasoline and distillate deliveries maintained similar year-on-year weakness.

Hurricane Wilma, which had spooked traders when it threatened to give western Gulf of Mexico oil facilities their third beating this year, was expected to track instead toward Florida.

The U.S. government said 64.5 percent of the region's 1.5 million barrels per day (bpd) of crude output capacity remained paralyzed on Thursday. Five U.S. refineries or 7.7 percent of the nation's fuel processing capacity remain completely shut, though one of these plants in Texas is gearing up for a restart.

Adding to bearish sentiment, the International Energy Agency (IEA) met in Paris on Thursday and said it agreed to allow any unplaced oil from its initial emergency reserves release to remain available for the market.

The IEA, adviser to 26 industrialized nations, co-ordinated a 30-day global release of up to 60 million barrels of crude and refined products such as gasoline to make up for shortages after Katrina slammed into U.S. Gulf rigs and refineries.

WINTER WORRIES

The West's energy watchdog said it would not authorize a further release of its member oil stocks but would be ready to order more supplies to meet any serious future shortages.

Some analysts said supplies of fuels such as heating oil, which fell last week but remained higher than this time in 2004, could still spell higher prices as the northern hemisphere approaches winter, when global fuel demand peaks.

``By first snow we expect extremely low stocks of heating oil and natural gas, with major pressure on refineries that need to (have maintenance),'' said Deutsche Bank. ``The fact is, some demand destruction is needed to balance this market.''

The UK Meteorological Office has predicted a colder-than-average winter for much of Europe, while forecaster EarthSat said this week that the U.S. Northeast -- the world's largest heating oil market -- would be chillier than last year.

Economic data showing major economies still powering ahead, despite high prices, have also checked oil's decline from its end-August record peak of $70.85 a barrel in New York.

But a top Bush administration official said on Thursday a prolonged stretch of record prices could harm economic growth.

Sabotage on Iraq's oil infrastructure remains a worry, with a bombing of a secondary oil pipeline in northern Iraq that feeds the route to Turkey cutting exports by 100,000 barrels per day (bpd) to 600,000 bpd, an Iraqi oil official said on Thursday.