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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68645)	10/23/2005 8:51:52 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 81568

chinu. You said..."I have told you that these countries are providing the aid. Bush's US is only talking big and not giving the aid proportionate to what they talk.".... I posted an article to you and the source of this article is an African media source. In the article there are NO comments or words of any kind from USA sources. Bush is not mentioned in this article. Bush or his administration have no words whatsoever in this article. Your hatred is so strong that you don't even bother to read an article before you make anti Bush anti American statements. You said..."So why should I like the America of today when Bush has lowered the prestige of the Americans in the world community?".... IMO. It is the likes of you that makes the USA look bad in some areas of the world and it is especially bad coming from you who may come from a muslim dominated country. You should be thankful that America would welcome the likes of you who is constantly preaching hate of America. It is not as you say Bush America...it is America for all Americans. Yours and others hate here and elsewhere is scary. Here is the article in it's entirety...read it and see why your statements of hate sound so very bad and have nothing at all to do with the article or the question I asked. May I suggest that if you dislike America so badly maybe you would be happier going back where ever you came from. --------------------------- Pirates: Somalia needs help 22/10/2005 20:23 - (SA) Nairobi - Somalia's government appealed on Saturday for international help to combat pirates, who have used speedboats, automatic weapons and satellite phones to target UN-chartered ships and other vessels. The appeal came a day after the International Maritime Bureau reported an alarming increase in attacks off the southern and eastern coast of Somalia and appealed to US and Nato warships in the region to protect vessels sailing near the Somali coast, an important shipping route connecting the Red Sea with the Indian Ocean. Pirates have launched 23 attacks against ships off Somalia since March 15, the London-based International Maritime Bureau, which tracks piracy around the world, said on its website. Somalia has had no effective central government since opposition leaders ousted dictator Mohamed Siad Barre in 1991. They then turned on each other, transforming this nation of seven million into a patchwork of battling fiefdoms ruled by heavily armed militias. A new transitional government, formed during lengthy peace talks in Kenya, is struggling to establish itself in Somalia as it faces internal divisions and opposition from Islamic militants and warlords who benefit from ongoing anarchy. "Until we establish our own marine force, we want neighbouring countries to deploy their navies to protect Somalia's coastline against the pirates," Mohamed Ali Americo, a senior official in the Somali prime minister's office, said as the 10-member crew of a UN-chartered ship arrived in Kenya following a 100-day hijacking ordeal. Trained fighters "We need help from all the nations along the Indian Ocean and the Red Sea." "The pirates use ransom to buy weapons," he told The Associated Press. "Their operations are also intended to destabilise and discredit the transitional government now that it has relocated to Somalia." A Hong Kong-based company that owns Feisty Gas, a liquefied petroleum gas tanker that was seized on April 10, paid $315 000 to a representative of the Somali hijackers in Mombasa, Kenya, according to a recent UN report. Pirates who seized 48 Asian fishermen and their three vessels on August 15 are still holding them captive near the southern Somali port of Kismayo. Somali pirates are trained fighters, often dressed in military fatigues, using speedboats equipped with satellite phones and Global Positioning System equipment. They are typically armed with automatic weapons, anti-tank rocket launchers and various types of grenades, according to the UN Monitoring Group on Somalia. "That is what makes them very dangerous and we are appealing for help," Americo said.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68645)	10/23/2005 9:06:21 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

chinu. You said..."This is Bush's America. Not the America of JFK and Clinton when other nations looked upto America. So why should I like the America of today when Bush has lowered the prestige of the Americans in the world community?..... Don't talk so foolish...what did this do for American prestige around the world? Or how about JFK Cuba and the Bay of Pigs. What did that do for American prestige around the world. All American presidents screw up at times so cut the partisan crap. Here Clinton Orders 5,300 Troops to Somalia; Vows End in 6 Months ..."President Clinton Thursday ordered 5,300 new combat troops and an aircraft carrier to Somalia "to protect our troops and to complete our mission," and at the same time he announced that he would bring all American combat forces home by March 31."... ...."We face a choice," the president said. "Do we leave when the job gets tough or when the job is well done? Do we invite the return of mass suffering or do we leave in a way that gives the Somalis a decent chance to survive?" .... www-tech.mit.edu --------------------------------------- On October 3, 1993 Task Force Ranger raided the Olympic Hotel in Mogadishu to search for Aidid. This led to a seventeen-hour battle in which eighteen U.S. soldiers were killed and eighty-four were wounded. Bodies of dead American soldiers were dragged through the streets of Mogadishu, shown on international news reports. Hundreds of Somalis also died, although the official number has never been released. This was the longest, most bloody battle for U.S troops since the Vietnam War. On October 7 President Clinton responded by withdrawing U.S. troops from Somalia. The hunt for Aidid was abandoned, although U.S. representatives were sent to resume negotiations with clan leaders. novaonline.nvcc.edu