To: freechina who wrote (1503 ) 10/24/2005 5:07:39 AM From: TobagoJack Respond to of 217710 heLLO Frank, <<Therefore Deflation, if you define it as the buying power of the dollar increasing ...>> ... Yes, I do.<<... can only happen as a lasting outcome with the total destruction of the banking system>> ... oh YES, YES, continue ...<<The US would never allow this situation to happen ...>> ... it will not be "allow" vs "not allow", and "never" is an exceedingly dangerous concept ;0)<<... but the buying power of the dollar is an acceptable causality>> ... oh, that will get us to TeoTwawKi just as awfully.<<the only way with paper money you can have deflation is if you can A.) A mass exodus from the banking system, this is really not possible any more [Edit: :0) ] B.) A competing currency is available, all other currencies are based upon the US dollar and gold is no longer a currency that can be used [Edit: all good ideas come to a natural end, can take that to the bank :0) ] C.) Loss off Faith in the banking system, possible, but you have to at least have A or B in order to derail the amount of money created through fractional reserve banking and fend off inflation by removing money from the banking system. [Edit: take this to the bank as well :0) ] D.) Hyperinflation can happen regardless of anything else. The government just prints its way out of debt. This happens every few years somewhere on the globe. There is NO DEBT LEVEL TOO HIGH THAT A COUNTRY WITH DEBT DEFINED IN TERMS OF ITS OWN CURRENCY CANNOT HYPER INFLATE OUT OF. Hyper inflation causes problems, but not nearly as many as the collapse of the banking system, at least from a political point of view.[Edit: I am guessing that you have not studied knowledgerush.com . Pity. But there is still time.] <<China and Japan? ... All countries will be affected, and their currencies shall fail, meaning their political system is destroyed as well, or they will hyper inflate, with almost as many political dire consequences>> [Edit: absolutely, yes, you got it, but only if you can surmount the difficulty of coming to terms with your items (A) through (C)] ... once you have come to terms with what must invariably be, as far as the (contradiction again) likely inevitable will be, we can continue on about what happens after the great deluge, and what would be beyond the edge of the known universe. Oh, by the way, did I forget to mention, history did not end? Chugs, J