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Strategies & Market Trends : 2026 TeoTwawKi ... 2032 Darkest Interregnum -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: TobagoJack who wrote (1562)10/25/2005 10:22:49 AM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (5) | Respond to of 217943
 
As politicians go, I still prefer Bush et al to Gore et al. Wouldn't mind having better choices.

As for gold as an investment, whatever floats your boat.

But as for gold as money, that's not going to happen, unless the US is reduced to grubbing in the rubble. In which case, gold won't do you any good because, unless you are very well armed, someone is going to hit you over the head and take it away from you.

We saw a mini-version of your predicted TEOTWAWKI in the New Orleans Superdome after Katrina -- gold wasn't much use in preventing you from drowning, nor getting your car through 10 foot deep floods. Anybody with gold after the chaos started either hid it or lost it to gangs of armed thugs.

The nice thing about paper is that it's inherently worthless -- just acts as a place marker. Some are still inclined to hit you over the head to take it away from you but most find it much easier just to work for it. Attacking human beings is inherently risky, so it's typically a desperation move.



To: TobagoJack who wrote (1562)10/25/2005 3:39:54 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 217943
 
The problem: <This outgrowth was a vast debtor class in the nation, directly interested in the depreciation of the currency in which they were to pay their debts. The nucleus of this class was formed by those who had purchased the church lands from the government. Only small payments down had been required and the remainder was to be paid in deferred installments: an indebtedness of a multitude of people had thus been created to the amount of hundreds of millions. This body of debtors soon saw, of course, that their interest was to depreciate the currency in which their debts were to be paid; and these were speedily joined by a far more influential class;--by that class whose speculative tendencies had been stimulated by the abundance of paper money, and who had gone largely into debt, looking for a rise in nominal values. Soon demagogues of the viler sort in the political clubs began to pander to it; a little later important persons in this debtor class were to be found intriguing in the Assembly--first in its seats and later in more conspicuous places of public trust. Before long, the debtor class became a powerful body extending through all ranks of society. From the stock-gambler who sat in the Assembly to the small land speculator in the rural districts; from the sleek inventor of _canards_ on the Paris Exchange to the lying stock-jobber in the market town, all pressed vigorously for new issues of paper; all were apparently able to demonstrate to the people that in new issues of paper lay the only chance for national prosperity.">

The answer is not: < Buy gold, it is difficult to leverage, hard to print, and requires no one to keep true to their words.>

The answer is the Quid. Cybercash, owned and controlled by those who hold it, not a bludging electorate of ne'er do wells bad-debtors and political hacks.

My construction of the necessary technology is proceeding apace and adoption of it is now universal, with construction well underway and 100s of millions now using it. There is still much to do. Soon, you will also own a 3G phragmented photon CDMA device and we will know that the time is nearing.

Hopefully, said time will arrive BEFORE the demise of Big Ben's legacy fiat float from our great, venerable, estimable idol Uncle Al KBE who buoyed the buck through a couple of turbulent decades.

As you say, and I'm sure CB can't believe, the Mighty US$ is going to go to zero. Okay, maybe not zero, but like the amazing British Pound, which soared across the planet a century ago, will come back to Earth and circle around a few "Once upon a time" dreamers of a time gone by.

The British are resisting being subsumed fully into the eurozone, but the euro is very convenient, albeit just another grander-scale state-controlled fiat fantasy.

Now a Kiwi is challenging the legality of the expedition to Iraq and refusing to return in the service of the British military. I think he will win. Well, he's not totally a Kiwi, more a product of the British Empire in the best of its traditions. Born in Oz, grew up in NZ, British/Kiwi dual citizen. Medical doctor. PhD philosophy in ethics and stuff.

The Quid will be ready soon enough. Gold will be relegated back to it's Aztec realm of cro-magnons scrabbling in the dirt for found wealth.

Mqurice



To: TobagoJack who wrote (1562)10/25/2005 5:31:07 PM
From: freechina  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 217943
 
On the flip side, those who understand the game rules, and its inevitable outcome, will deserve the genuine moolah coming this way, extracted from the majority, to benefit the very few, leaving behind spin and debt.

It is currently AGAINST THE LAW to use GOLD to make purchases in the USA General - the derivatives blog guy goes into this on his webpage. It is not ILLEGAL however to take out loans that will later be paid with debased helicopter bernanke money to buy stocks of good companies and good real estate. I do not wish to break the LAW of the bankers, politicians, and men with guns - for then like your grandpa I will sit in Jail. No fun - the government has prevented the likes of CHens from profiting from GOLD in the past - why invite the boogeyman to hurt you? Borrow to the hilt for things the government LETS you get rich on - why fight the bankers and men with guns? You are not grandpa - you are not going to sit in jail - you are investing in real estate like me - however western real estate will hyperinflate - depressional era prices did not go back to pre bubble prices in real estate - they did in many commodities though - Japan saved thier old people and deflated - USA does not have a history of that.