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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68745)	10/25/2005 12:58:13 PM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

By Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey Like far too many women in this country, all three of us have experienced the crime of sexual assault and the violation of sexual harassment by men in powerful positions. Each of us has battled with the shame, humiliation, and fear of coming forward to report the assault. Each of us has worried about how this sexual harassment and assault will affect our careers. Two of us, however, suffered this kind of experience at the hands of a United States president. That president has never apologized for his vicious behavior. That president and his wife orchestrated frightening, retaliatory intimidation tactics against us for daring to tell the truth about the assaults against us. That president and his wife are held in high esteem by world leaders and much of the American public. And that president’s wife now seeks to become president herself. Because of this, Bill and Hillary Clinton continue to teach important lessons to victims and perpetrators of violence against women in this country. Bill and Hillary Clinton are teaching rape and sexual harassment victims that if your assailant is popular and politically powerful, you will be punished more for daring to report the assault than for keeping silent. They are teaching perpetrators of violence against women that as long as you are pro-abortion enough to have the political support of the National Organization for Women, any crimes you commit against women in your “personal life” will be overlooked. When we announced that we are touring the Clinton Library in Little Rock, Arkansas, this Wednesday, we were asked by friends, family, the press, and the public: Why do you keep dragging this issue up? Why can’t you just let it go? The Clinton Library is a multi-million dollar monument to the legacy of our forty-second president, but part of that legacy is being erased. Part of the true Clinton legacy is the cruel abuse that he and his inner circle committed against us. If we let it go, what does that say to the thousands of women victimized by sexual harassment and assault? Unless we have the courage to ask the American people to hold the Clintons accountable for their abuses against us, we are part of the problem rather than part of the solution. The problem of abuse against women is far too serious for us to sit quietly by while Bill and Hillary Clinton whitewash their reputations and escape all consequences for their actions. Harassment and assault must be denounced no matter the status of victim or perpetrator. But harassment and assault committed by our leaders must be censored even more vigorously because these luminaries set the standards for acceptable behavior in our society. Bill Clinton’s sexual assaults against us, and Hillary Clinton’s active participation in persuading America that those assaults don’t matter, represent a breach of the trust we should place in our leaders. This is not a political vendetta on our part. The two of us assaulted by Bill Clinton were political supporters of the Clintons until Bill Clinton attacked us. This is about the truth, and the sad truth is that the Clintons have exhibited such callous treatment of women that they do not deserve our respect or our votes. Whether or not you agree with the Clintons’ political positions, there are certainly politicians out there who hold similar positions but who actually treat women with dignity and respect. It’s time for us to take abuse against women seriously, and that requires that we demand proper treatment of women from those in positions of power. Our stories are on record, in painful detail. The Clintons have never even bothered to present any reasons why you should believe their denials and evasions regarding our accusations. They prefer to hope that we will let it go, and that all of us will move on and forget about their despicable behavior. We will not let it go. For the sake of women everywhere whose lives are torn apart after being assaulted by powerful men, we will continue to press the Clintons to face up to the damage they have caused

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (68745)	10/25/2005 2:48:38 PM
From: Dan B.	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 81568

Yes, Honest American Female Citizens. They spoke the truth. There was never anything convoluted about a woman telling the truth on Clinton, was there? Nor is it convoluted to call them honest, if in fact they did sleep with the guy. I for one don't consider to claim Clinton is a bad guy for relentlessly seeking adultrous affairs (he might get nothing at home for all I know). NO, I say he's a bad guy for lying about the honest female citizens who told the truth. If you wish to call them whores, then what shall you call Clinton? Oh, yeah, a nice guy doing a good job having a little fun. Fine, if you'd cease thinking of them as "whores." This is just the trouble with YOUR convoluted thinking (which I might add, ignores basic american freedoms of honest speech, as did Clinton just to be sure he could be elected). You seem to think that because these women slept with a married man (certainly at his prompting, in most cases), they are "whores" and therefore it's OK if the president calls them liars when he knew they were not. There is nothing convoluted about calling such women as slept with Clinton ("whores" or not, thank-you) honest about it, when in fact they were. That you bring up the word "whore" here, IMO, just reveals the stone-age anti-woman, anti-freedom crap that lives on in the core of your beliefs in general. How disgusting of you, frankly. Where the hell do you get off, anyway? Warning: Ad Hominen ahead: In Pocket Pussies? When it comes to Cheney, I see you put words into my mouth which I didn't say. Who said "he could in no way have manipulated?" Not me. I've said there is no evidence that he did so. Who assured you he told the truth? Not me, I just say there is no evidence that he lied, and plenty of evidence that what he believed (if he doesn't still), was believed by many including French Intelligence and even the likes of John Kerry. It will always be absurd to claim Bush/Cheney as a source of lies over WMD's until you have some evidence showing that they knew better than the rest of the world (bill Clinton included), and went along with the common wisdom anyway. You aren't going to find that, IMHO. And you are never going to look like someone who makes sense when you claim Bush and Cheney lied about WMD's, until you do. Dan B.