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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: steve harris who wrote (46108)10/29/2005 10:01:53 AM
From: jttmab  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
lol,
I forgot. Bush suckered Kennedy and Clinton in 1998 with his fake WMD claims.......


Ok, I'll do it again.

It doesn't make any difference what someone thought in 1998. US Forces were not committed in 1998. What matters is what you know or think you know on Mar 19, 2003.

What we knew on that day is that every bit of intelligence that we thought we knew to be true that we passed to the UN was wrong.

We knew that the Niger document was a forgery; we knew that the aluminum tubes were suited for missiles not centrifuges, we knew that the mobile chemical van was nothing more than the picture of a military van; we knew that every where we thought there was evidence of a weapons programs there was none. The factory that we thought produced WMD was producing booze. The palaces that we thought had WMD programs had nothing. Not one piece of intel was correct. Not one.

When everything you have is wrong, it's time to question your conclusions. To go back and quote someone from 1998 is ridiculous.

jttmab



To: steve harris who wrote (46108)10/29/2005 5:55:50 PM
From: American Spirit  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
1998 intel is pretty irrelevant. The unknown factor was what if any efforts Saddam had made since 1998 to reconstitute his WMD program. Also what if any contact with Al Qaida did he have which put two and two together? These were legit fears.

The UN inspections were going great, backed by a real threat of US force. The problem for Bush-Cheney is that they'd already decided to invade and occupy no matter what, even without an occupation plan. So they didn't wait for the inspections to be finished, they falsified "alarming" evidence and doctored intel they have to congress, the UN and everyone else. So even though Saddam turned out to be clean in terms of WMD of Al Qaida, they rushed forth nevertheless pretending their phony intel was true.

1998 was five years prior, and at the time CLinton bombed the hell out of every suspected WMD site. Now we know though that the WMD were actually desroyed in the early 90's and Clinton had been wrong too. Also, Clinton was not the one who rushed into Iraq, or ever suggested doing so. Bush-Cheney did.