To: Rock_nj who wrote (2338 ) 10/30/2005 12:27:00 PM From: jmhollen Respond to of 16955 I can tell you one thing, if you're not related to Bill Gates or aren't some MIT-connected PhD suck-up at a major University it is a stone (w)itch trying to get money to do alternative energy work. When our group gets the ABPS system (..even the base plant, since the rest is a just modular mirror-image..) up and running, with Methane going into the pipeline 24/7 - then there will be some earthshaking revelations in Dizzy City and elsewhere - like the snob-arse Venture Capital world. I.e.: "..Who..??? Those guys who wrote to us 4 years ago..??? They're doing what..!?! Making that much power...?!? Holy schmidt..."!!! And, at that point - we won't need them anymore. I've got no complaint with wind farms, etc., except where they get all the development money because they are sexier than processing cow/pig/chicken/turkey poo, dead critters, switchgrass, etc. Our data will immedaitely show that $$$-wise and efficiency-wise those efforts are a waste of money compared to ABPS AD. And, when our digesters don't"..silt-up.." ever and our covers last 20 years, the skeptics will be left there with their hands in their pockets, standing in their own yellow puddles, trying to figure out how to catch up. It's really an emotional drain having to wait on all the financing to come together to get the ABPS systems up and running. But, it will be a kick in the pants to have been a part of all of it all. And then, to get literally flooded when the demand for clones hits. It's either famine of feast in these new alternative energy engineering efforts; and ye ol' Hootenanny & Bar-B-Q ain't far off.. That pressure differential thing is a pipe dream. We'll have multiple space stations beaming down microwave energy to the grid, before you see anybody buidling 200 mile long oversized culverts to spin fans..!!! The liquid equivalent of that does work, however. Stored energy is practical - where they pump water up to a mountain reservoir in Colorado at night, then let it flow back down to turbine generators for peaking in the day time. Water is a viable medium as it provides 1 foot of head pressure per every 1 foot in altitude. Air at micro differentials is a mechanical engineering joke, IMHO. That equates to trying to fly a 747 using onboard C02 capsules instead of gas-turbine engines. As an example, 80# compressed air (Plant Air) used in most major process plants and factories is "..the most expensive and maintenance intensive system.." on the property. John :-) .