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To: Win Smith who wrote (173771)10/31/2005 7:40:01 PM
From: Win Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
Grand Theories, Ignored Realities nytimes.com

[ This is the other review of Packer's book from the NYT. " We don't need no stinkin' reality" would seem to be an appropriate warcry for W and his loyal propagandists, but maybe that's just a side effect my jaundiced memory of all the prewar cheerleading and "mission accomplished" gleefulness around here. ]

By MICHIKO KAKUTANI

In his authoritative and tough-minded new book, "The Assassins' Gate: America in Iraq," the New Yorker writer George Packer reminds us that the decision of the Bush administration to go to war against Iraq and its increasingly embattled handling of the occupation were both predicated upon large, abstract ideas about the role of America in the post-cold war world - most notably, a belief in pre-emptive and unilateral action, the viability of exporting democracy abroad, the urge to streamline the military and the dream of remaking the Middle East.

Like the administration's allegation that Saddam Hussein posed a "grave and gathering danger" and possessed weapons of mass destruction (the supposed reason we went to war in the first place), many of these assumptions would turn out to be wrong - or naïve, overly simplistic and deeply flawed.

In the walk-up to the war, Mr. Packer suggests, administration hawks were so certain of their ideas that they encouraged the cherry-picking of intelligence to support their theories, while ignoring the counsel of military and intelligence professionals whose advice was deemed contradictory or inconvenient. In the aftermath of Mr. Hussein's fall, he goes on, the war's architects remained so wedded to their grand theories that they were reluctant to acknowledge the realities on the ground. They failed to anticipate many of the palpable consequences of the war (from an increasingly virulent insurgency to growing Islamist radicalism to the escalation of ferocious ethnic tensions within Iraq), and they were slow to respond to concerns about insufficient troops and insufficient armor and supplies.

Mr. Packer writes not as an peacenik but as an "ambivalently prowar liberal" who had "wanted to see a homicidal dictator removed from power before he committed mass murder again," who had "wanted to see if an open society stood a chance of taking root in the heart of the Arab world." If his assessment in these pages of the Bush administration is scorching, it is because he writes as one who shared its hopes of seeing a functioning democracy established in Iraq and who now sees the chances of that happening dwindling in the wake of the administration's bungled handling of the war and occupation.

Most of Mr. Packer's observations about the dangerous fallout of administration members' idées fixes are not new: they have been made before by former consultants to the administration like Larry Diamond, a former senior adviser to the Coalition Provisional Authority in Baghdad and the author of the recent book "Squandered Victory," and by journalists like Mr. Packer's colleague, Seymour M. Hersh, the author of "Chain of Command" and a series of ground-breaking stories in The New Yorker.

Other portions of this volume - which sorely lacks footnotes and an extended bibliography - are heavily indebted to earlier books on the Bush administration and its prosecution of the Iraq war, including James Mann's "Rise of the Vulcans," Anonymous's "Imperial Hubris," James Bamford's "Pretext for War" and Bob Woodward's "Plan of Attack."

What "The Assassins' Gate" may lack in freshness, however, is more than made up for by its wide-angled, overarching take on the Iraq war and Mr. Packer's lucid ability to pull together information from earlier books and integrate it with his own reporting from Washington and Iraq. He traces the roots of the decision to go to war in Iraq back to ideas (involving America's assumption of an aggressive, forward-leaning role in the world, its exercise of what Robert Kagan and William Kristol have called "benevolent global hegemony") that germinated among neoconservatives years ago, and he shows how those ideas gained traction as many of these people assumed high-level jobs in the administration of George W. Bush.

As the former counterterrorism czar Richard A. Clarke and the former Treasury Secretary Paul H. O'Neill have pointed out, Iraq was on the Bush administration's agenda long before 9/11, but those terrorist attacks gave further impetus to the neoconservatives' agenda, providing a president in search of new ideas with a ready-made strategy and world view.

"By the early spring of 2002," Mr. Packer writes, "a full year before the invasion, the administration was inexorably set on a course of war"; the policy had been set, he adds, without arguments for and against an invasion being methodically weighed. According to Richard Haass, the director of policy planning in the State Department, "it was an accretion, a tipping point": "a decision was not made - a decision happened, and you can't say when or how."

Preparations for the postwar period were also predicated upon a set of assumptions (based heavily on the word of Iraqi exiles like the neocon favorite Ahmad Chalabi) that administration members, from Vice President Dick Cheney to Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, were reluctant to re-evaluate. "Plan A," Mr. Packer writes, "was that the Iraqi government would be quickly decapitated, security would be turned over to remnants of the Iraqi police and army, international troops would soon arrive, and most American forces would leave within a few months. There was no Plan B." To dissent from Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld's minimalist war plan of quick, light force, in Mr. Packer's view, was to risk "humiliation and professional suicide." Gen. Eric K. Shinseki, the Army chief of staff, was mocked by Mr. Wolfowitz for testifying that the job would require "something on the order of several hundred thousand soldiers." And when President Bush's economic adviser, Lawrence Lindsay, predicted that the war could cost as much as $200 billion (a figure that would actually turn out to be low), he was "quickly reprimanded and eventually fired."

"The administration systematically kept forecasts of the war's true cost from the public and, by the insidious effects of airtight groupthink, from itself," Mr. Packer writes. "This would be historic transformation on the cheap."

That cheapness would have serious consequences for the course of the occupation. The lack of sufficient troops would lead to an inability to prevent looting and restore law and order, which in turn would undermine Iraqi confidence in the Americans; an inability to contain local militias, which would help fuel the insurgency; and an inability to seal the country's borders, which would allow foreign terrorists to enter the country at will. As for funds - which were often insufficient, delayed or mismanaged - Mr. Packer writes that "the failure to spend Iraq reconstruction money wisely, or quickly, or at all, became one of the less publicized but more significant scandals of the occupation."

Many of the missteps made during the war and postwar, Mr. Packer implies, could have been avoided had the Bush administration been more open to recommendations from experts on Iraq. He writes that the State Department's Future of Iraq project was sidelined because of tensions between the State Department and the Pentagon, and that its coordinator, Tom Warrick, "who had done as much thinking about postwar Iraq as any American official" also "became a casualty of the interagency war and didn't get to Baghdad for a year."

Mr. Packer adds that a 2002 offer from Leslie H. Gelb, the president of the Council on Foreign Relations, to put together a panel of experts to consult on postwar options, was turned down by the national security adviser, Condoleezza Rice, and he says that a provisional plan for Iraq's reconstruction, begun by Gen. Anthony C. Zinni, was shrugged off by the Pentagon, shortly before the war, as being too negative. Mr. Packer's conclusion: "Where it mattered and could have made a difference, the advice of experts was unwelcome."

In the end, Mr. Packer blames administration members' arrogance and carelessness about human life (amounting, in his words, "to criminal negligence") for many of the current problems in Iraq. "Swaddled in abstract ideas," he writes, "convinced of their own righteousness, incapable of self-criticism, indifferent to accountability, they turned a difficult undertaking into a needlessly deadly one. When things went wrong, they found other people to blame. The Iraq War was always winnable; it still is. For this very reason, the recklessness of its authors is all the harder to forgive."



To: Win Smith who wrote (173771)10/31/2005 7:41:32 PM
From: rich evans  Respond to of 281500
 
So here is the plan. Kill the bad guys as much as possible till the elections on Dec15. After the elections draw down our troops to the Afgan level with air support. Recon and embed special forces with the Iraq units we have created. And see what happens. All we care about is that the Sunni triangle does not become an Al Queda base. If the Sunni's and Shias want to fight instead of talk, so be it. The Army is now mostly Shia and Kurds. Good luck Sunnis.
Rich



To: Win Smith who wrote (173771)10/31/2005 10:25:30 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
Hard as it is to believe, the Bush administration took on the largest foreign policy project in a generation with little planning or forethought. It occupied a foreign country of 25 million people in the heart of the Middle East pretty much on the fly. Packer, who was in favor of the war, reserves judgment and commentary in most of the book but finally cannot contain himself: "Swaddled in abstract ideas . . . indifferent to accountability," those in positions of highest responsibility for Iraq "turned a difficult undertaking into a needlessly deadly one," he writes. "When things went wrong, they found other people to blame."

Well, you're delving into some areas that I probably should not address, at least until I leave here..

But overall, I don't disagree with the overall gist of the article.. The disbandment of the Iraqi army, certainly when they were just permitted to "fade away" with their weapons and ammunition and no means of tracking their whereabouts.. was a major mistake.

I knew a guy last year who was with Garner in those first few months.. And he was there when the order came down to disband the army and De-Ba'thify..

It all harkens back to the end of WWII and how we dealt with Nazi Germany.. And given that Bremer is a protoge of Kissinger, who was counter-intelligence in Germany at the end of the war, I can only guess where the suggestions hailed from.

De-Nazisification "worked" in Germany because it was defeated and they knew they were defeated. Furthermore, they were shamed in submission as the crimes of the Nazis were revealed.

Furthermore, the Werhmacht soldiers were held in POW camps for months after the official surrender (some in brutal and shameful conditions due to the sheer logistical challenges, as well as low-level displays of "revenge" by junior officers and NCOs guarding them.)

None of this happens with the Iraqi army..

There's far more I would like to say.. But that will have to wait until I'm done here.

But Win.. All of this is still "what we did wrong".. NOT "what do we need to do??"..

The current situation in that EVERY country bordering it is trying to either destabilize it, control it, or at least influence it politically or economically.

And then there are the INTERNAL POWER struggles as the Sunnis fight to regain some of the political power they previously held. And for the Sunnis, they certainly have warranted concerns given how they treated the Shi'a, as well as the fact that only by holding political power do they hold economic power in Iraq (there is little, to no, oil in Western Iraq.. at least that anyone has yet found).

AND ON TOP OF THAT, we have a COUNTER-INVASION by Islamic Militants who seek to invade, conquer, and restore the Caliphate that once existed in Baghdad (and failing that.. turn their attention to Damascus).

So yes.. let's all acknowledge that mistakes have been made..

But I want to see the other side offer some CREATIVE and REALISTIC SOLUTIONS of their own...

I just REALLY SICK of all of this B*tching and Moaning that does nothing more than demoralize our troops and confuse the REAL ISSUE OF IMPORTANCE.. How to fight and WIN against the tide of Islamic Militancy that has been pervading the region for the past 20 years.

Does anyone on this friggin' have the time, intelligence, and motivation to tell me how they propose to handle things differently than we are now?

Hawk