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To: Bilow who wrote (173818)11/1/2005 10:06:09 AM
From: jttmab  Respond to of 281500
 
I think the research is great. What I'm objecting to is the unnecessary terrorization of the population.

I think that the characterization of terrorizing the population is way over the top. I see no indication that the general population feels terrorized. There are some people and companies that are buying Tamiflu ... BFD.

The latest Harper's has an article that cuts to this point. In 1940-41, when the Germans killed 40,000 Londoners by bomb, the city never shut down. But the recent bombing that killed 56 shut the city down for a day, and two weeks later an attempted bombing that killed no one also shut it down. And the estimates at the time were that there were 150,000 Nazi sympathizers living in Britain.

We would have to come to some agreement as to what defines "shut down". When the London air raid sirens went off, the British went into air raid shelters, they didn't ignore them. Shutting down London for either of the bombing events is gross exaggeration.

And I'm having some difficulty seeing the relationship to the bird flu on that one anyway unless you're saying that some city or cities have shut down over bird flu scares.



To: Bilow who wrote (173818)11/1/2005 11:24:39 AM
From: bentway  Respond to of 281500
 
"the unnecessary terrorization of the population"

This is so true, but it's in the interest of fearmongers to whip it up. Bush sees himself as a "war president", and when he needs some support, he can easily jack up the fear level - but less so now. People are beginning to see him as "the little boy who cried wolf"!

I grew up in the Cold War. I was shown movies of atomic blasts in school and drilled on duck and cover. We really HAD 20,000 nuclear bombs aimed at us on a hair-trigger, ready to launch in the space of a heartbeat. We coped.

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During the Cuban Missle crisis, we were marched down to the community shelter in drills, with huge alarm klaxon's going off all over the city. My family sat around the kitchen table and tried to decide if we wanted to finance a back yard underground fallout shelter. (We didn't - to my father's credit, he beat back the fear!)

Compared to that, these Islamists are chickenfeed. Forget the fact that you're in more REAL DANGER everytime you pull out of your driveway or step into the tub! We've become a nation of complete manipulated wimps.