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To: mistermj who wrote (174030)11/3/2005 7:02:15 AM
From: Noel de Leon  Respond to of 281500
 
"The larger question should be if the extreme left is in fact useful idiots for the propaganda wars of our enemies."

More to the point:

The larger question should be if the neocons and RWEs are in fact useful idiots for the propaganda wars and terrorism of the enemies of the USA.



To: mistermj who wrote (174030)11/3/2005 9:21:31 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
It just amused me that you said something as if it were fact, and then quoted a source that disagreed with you, without appearing to realize it. That kind of posting behavior shows a poverty of thought behind the post. That's the point. It's not about Lenin, it's about sloppy thinking, and sloppy writing, and sloppy support. That you are not alone in saying as if it were fact that Lenin said it, doesn't surprise me- I saw that too- unfortunately the people who "quoted" that fact did as little fact checking as you. Sometimes a LOT of people all get the same thing wrong. Isn't that fascinating?

I gave you a fairly well researched URL that supported what I said- because I like to find other sources than Wiki (which is an ok starting place, but that's about it). I found many many citations on the issue.

And no, I'm not trying to sidestep the point. It seems anathema, in a democracy, to try to label political opposition as aiding the "enemy". I happen to think bush is aiding the enemy, and you are too if you support him, and I can make a good case for that (one that's been made by others, also) and I could certainly call you a "useful idiot" (useful to AQ, and other Islamists), but really what's the point in calling each other names? None that I can see, unless you enjoy name calling, simply to convert your personal "opinion" about people into epithets. That's the real question, is it important that anti-communist conservatives called people names, and should we care that you want to call names now? I think we should point out the poverty of that kind of sport, myself.