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To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 10:52:02 AM
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Paris Riots Spread across france
Associated Press ^ | Nov 5, 2005 | Jamey Keaten

AUBERVILLIERS, France - Widespread riots across impoverished areas of France took a malevolent turn in a ninth night of violence, as youths torched an ambulance and stoned medical workers coming to the aid of a sick person. Authorities arrested more than 200 people, an unprecedented sweep since the beginning of the unrest.

Bands of youths also burned a nursery school, warehouses and more than 750 cars overnight as the violence that spread from the restive Paris suburbs to towns around France. The U.S. warned Americans against taking trains to the airport through the affected areas.

At the nursery school in Acheres, west of Paris, part of the roof was caved in, childrens' photos stuck to blackened walls, and melted plastic toys littered the floor.

The town had been previously untouched by the violence. Some residents demanded that the army be deployed, or that citizens rise up and form militias. At the school gate, the mayor tried to calm tempers.

"We are not going to start militias," Mayor Alain Outreman said. "You would have to be everywhere."

Fires and other incidents were reported in the northern city of Lille, in Toulouse, in the southwest, Rouen, in the west and elsewhere on the second night of unrest in areas beyond metropolitan Paris. An incendiary device was tossed at the wall of a synagogue in Pierrefitte, northwest of Paris, where electricity went out after a burning car damaged an electrical pole.

"This is dreadful, unfortunate. Who did this? Against whom?" Naima Mouis, a hospital worker in Suresnes, asked while looking at the hulk of her burned-out car.

On Saturday morning, more than 1,000 people took part in a silent march in one of the worst-hit suburbs, Aulnay-sous-Bois, filing past burned-out cars to demand calm. One banner read: "No to violence." Car torchings have become a daily fact in France's tough suburbs, with about 100 each night.

The Interior Ministry operations center reported 754 vehicles burned throughout France from Friday night to Saturday morning — three-quarters of them in the Paris area.

Arrests were also up sharply, with 203 people detained overnight, the center said. By comparison, Interior Ministry Nicolas Sarkozy said Thursday that police had made 143 arrests during the whole first week of unrest.

The violence — sparked after the Oct. 27 accidental electrocution of two teenagers who believed police were chasing them in Seine-Saint-Denis — has laid bare discontent simmering in France's poor suburbs ringing big cities. Those areas are home to large populations of African Muslim immigrants and their children living in low-income housing projects marked by high unemployment, crime and despair.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin oversaw a Cabinet meeting Saturday to evaluate the situation.

The persistence of the violence prompted the American and Russian governments to advise citizens visiting Paris to avoid the suburbs, where authorities were struggling to gain control of the worst rioting in at least a decade.

An attack this week on a woman bus passenger highlighted the savage nature of some of the violence. The woman, in her 50s and on crutches, was doused with an inflammable liquid and set afire after passengers were forced to leave the bus, blocked by burning objects on the road, judicial officials said.

Late Friday in Meaux, east of Paris, youths prevented firefighters from evacuating a sick person from an apartment in a housing project, pelting them with stones and torching the awaiting ambulance, an Interior Ministry officer said. The officer, not authorized to speak publicly, asked not to be named.

"I'm not able to sleep at night because you never know when a fire might break out," said Mammed Chukri, 36, a Kurdish immigrant from northern Iraq living near a burned carpet warehouse. "I have three children and I live in a five-story building. If a fire hit, what would I do?"

A national police spokesman, Patrick Hamon, said there appeared to be no coordination between gangs in the various riot-hit suburbs. He said, however, that neighborhood youths were communicating between themselves using mobile phone text messaging or e-mails to arrange meeting points and alert each other to police.



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 10:53:38 AM
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Arafat would have been proud.



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 10:55:54 AM
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France has bent over backwards to accommodate terrorists in the belief that it would make them invulnerable to attacks..

Maybe NOW they see that the more you appease, the more that appeasement is taken as a sign of weakness..then again, maybe not..



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 10:56:53 AM
From: paret  Respond to of 769670
 
So when is Clinton going to start bombing Paris to help his freedom fighters that are being arrested?



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 10:58:15 AM
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The riots have not touched popular tourist sites in Paris. But the road and rail line that many foreign visitors use to travel between the city and Charles de Gaulle International Airport slice through the most troubled districts.

Two trains connecting Paris and the airport were attacked Thursday, prompting engineers to run only one in five trains on Friday, rail officials said. The U.S. Embassy warned travelers Friday against taking trains to the airport, calling conditions in the troubled areas "extremely violent."

Almost every exit sign off the A1 highway to the airport identifies a town that has been the scene of nightly attacks.



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 11:00:50 AM
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Perhaps the French National government itself has been compromised ? Chirac himself has stated that the history of Muslims and the history of France are the same. He was also a very good friend of Saddam. Interesting to note that the west appears to be losing France at the same time the Progressive nitwits within the US are doing an all out blitz attack on Bush.



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 11:08:44 AM
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Rioting Spreads From Paris Across France (France starts using Helicopters)

AP ^ | Nov 4 2005 | AP

AUBERVILLIERS, France - Marauding youths torched nearly 900 vehicles, stoned paramedics and burned a nursery school in a ninth night of violence that spread from Paris suburbs to towns around France, police said Saturday. Authorities arrested more than 250 people overnight — a sweep unprecedented since the unrest began.
For the first time, authorities used a helicopter to chase down youths armed with gasoline bombs who raced from arson attack to arson attack, national police spokesman Patrick Hamon said.
The violence, which was concentrated in neighborhoods with large African and Muslim populations but has since spread, has forced France to address the simmering anger of its suburbs, where immigrants and their French-born children live on the margins of society.
With 897 vehicles destroyed by daybreak Saturday, it was the worst one-day toll since unrest broke out after the Oct. 27 accidental electrocution of two teenagers who believed police were chasing them. Five hundred cars were burned a night earlier.
In a particularly malevolent turn, youths in the eastern Paris suburb of Meaux prevented paramedics from evacuating a sick person from a housing project, pelting rescuers with rocks and torching the awaiting ambulance, an Interior Ministry official said.
A nursery school was badly burned in Acheres, west of Paris.
The town had previously escaped the violence, the worst rioting in at least a decade in France. Some residents demanded that the army be deployed, or that citizens band together to protect their neighborhoods. At the school gate, Mayor Alain Outreman tried to calm tempers.
"We are not going to start militias," he said. "You would have to be everywhere."
Unrest, mainly arson, was reported in the northern city of Lille, in Toulouse in the southwest and in the Normandy city of Rouen. It was the second night that troubles spread beyond the difficult Paris suburbs.
In Suresnes, a normally calm town just west of the capital, 44 cars were burned in a lot.
On Saturday morning, more than 1,000 people took part in a silent march in one of the worst-hit suburbs, Aulnay-sous-Bois. One banner read: "No to violence."
Police detained 258 people overnight, almost all in the Paris region, and dozens of them will be prosecuted, Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said after a government crisis meeting.
"Violence penalizes those who live in the toughest conditions," he said. "Violence is not the solution."
Most attacks have been in towns with low-income housing projects, areas marked by high unemployment, crime and despair. But in a new development, gangs have left their heavily policed neighborhoods to attack others with fewer police, spreading the violence.
Police deployed overnight in smaller, more mobile teams to chase rioters getting around in cars and on motorcycles, said Hamon, the police spokesman.
There appeared to be no coordination among gangs in different areas, Hamon said. Within gangs, however, youths communicated by cell phone text messages or e-mails and warned each other about police, he said.
Anger against police was fanned days ago when a tear gas bomb exploded in a mosque in Clichy-sous-Bois, north of Paris — the same surburb where the youths were electrocuted. Youths suspected a police operation, but Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin met Saturday with the head of the Paris mosque and denied that police were to blame.
The persistence of the violence prompted the American and Russian governments to advise citizens visiting Paris to steer clear of the suburbs.
In Torcy, east of the capital, looters set fire to a youth center and a police station, which were gutted, city hall said. An incendiary device was tossed at the wall of a synagogue in Pierrefitte, northwest of Paris.
A police officer at the Interior Ministry operations center said bullets were fired into a vandalized bus in Sarcelles, north of Paris.
Firefighters battled a furious blaze at a carpet warehouse in Aubervilliers, on the northern edge of Paris.



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 11:12:43 AM
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jihadwatch.org



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 11:27:43 AM
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Condi Ups Crescent-Kissing
Don Feder.com ^ | 11/03/05 | Don Feder

While I never imagined Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice to be a conservative, I used to think she was vaguely connected to reality. Her October 25th speech at an Iftaar dinner (marking the end of Ramadan) disabused me of that notion. It was an exercise in crescent-kissing to put even her boss to shame.

Upping the ante on Western Muslim mania, madam secretary promoted Islam from religion of peace to "religion of love and peace." (You always hurt the ones you love?) Islam's love letters usually come with TNT attached.

"We in America know the benevolence that is at the heart of Islam," Rice remarked. "We've seen it in many ways."

Muslim benevolence may also be glimpsed in a ceremony just days ago in Dubai, in the United Arab Emirates, where Sheikh Abdul Rahman Al Sudais (imam of Mecca's Grand Mosque) received the Islamic Personality of the Year Award.

In a 2003 sermon, Sheikh Love prayed that Allah would "terminate" the Jews, who he benevolently called "the scum of humanity, the rats of the world, prophet killers ... pigs and monkeys" (the latter comes from the Koran). On other occasions Al-Sudais referred to Jews as "evil," a "continuum of deceit," "tyrannical" and "treacherous" - doubtless, all terms of endearment among devotees of the religion of peace and love.

Rice went on to observe: "We in America also know that Muslims ... possess certain basic rights that arise from our equal human dignity. Among these are the right to live without oppression, the right to worship without persecution, and the right to think and speak and assemble without wrongful retribution."

Pity Muslims don't extend the same rights to religious minorities in their counties -- Christians in Nigeria, Jews in Iran, Orthodox in Kosovo, Egyptian Copts, etc.

Earlier this month, there were riots outside a Coptic church in Alexandria, Egypt. It took 5,000 police to quell the crowd protesting a play at the church which it believed had defamed its adorable religion. Days before, a Muslim stabbed a nun to retaliate for the sale of a DVD of the play. Crossing "peace and love" can be a risky business.

Besides puckering up for the Prophet, our Secretary of State indulged in some unabashed America-bashing. After ritual garment-rending over the sin of segregation, Condi pontificated, "So, of all nations, America has no cause for false pride and we have every reason for humility." (Perhaps it was her years in academia that taught Rice to babble fluently.)

No reason for "false pride," huh? It must have been the Saudis who launched us into the computer age. Guess it was the Egyptians who spent half-a-century feeding the world's hungry. Were those Iranians hitting the beach on D-Day? - probably not, given that most adherents of the religion of peace and love were rooting for the Nazis.

Her fondness for Islam must be behind Rice's advocacy of a Palestinian state. Why limit the love to only 1,000-plus dead Israelis in the past five years?

In all of existence, there is no greater dichotomy than between the way Islam is portrayed by its Western admirers and the way it's practiced by its more enthusiastic adherents. Wherever large numbers of Muslims come in contact with "infidels," all jihad breaks loose. That's as true on the West Bank as it is in the Kashmir, as much a reality in the Philippines as the Balkans and as sure in West Africa as it is in Indonesia.

There are two possible explanations for this phenomenon:

1) Islam is indeed a religion of sweetness and light which, for some inexplicable reason, tends to provoke the wrath of non-Muslims of every variety.

2) Islam is an atavistic cult (more ideology than religion) whose tenets glorify holy war, teach contempt for other peoples, foster toxic resentment and inspire megalomania among its followers.

Yet, reality notwithstanding, Western elites insist on seeing Islam through Condi-colored glasses. No amount of suicide bombing, anti-Semitic agitation (Jordanian TV is airing a series on the Jewish conspiracy for global domination - The Protocols of The Elders of Zion for Dummies), rampant misogyny, persecution of Christians or slaughter of innocents is allowed to penetrate this mindset.

Love (as well as body parts) was in the air in India on Saturday, when bomb blasts in two crowded New Delhi markets killed 61, among them a number children. While no one has claimed responsibility, police are saying it has all the earmarks of the Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, the jihadi group attempting to wrest the Kashmir away from India.

Isn't it odd how the religion of love and peace often inspires such murderous rage among its disciples? I don't recall Moses, Jesus or Buddha saying, 'If you kill infidels, you'll go straight to heaven and get 70 doe-eyed virgins in the bargain." While most religions went through a violent stage, Islam's has lasted for almost 1,400 years - and counting.

The standard Western response is that terrorism in the name of Islam is the work of fanatics, extremists - a fringe element that somehow has managed to misinterpret its peaceable and adorable faith and turn it into an incendiary device.

This overlooks opinion surveys in the Islamic world which show substantial support for the Muslim version of Murder Inc. It also ignores the fact that, despite constant urging and every opportunity to do so, so-called Muslim moderates somehow never get around to repudiating jihad violence. It also assumes that George Bush and Condi Rice know more about Islam than the sheikhs of Mecca, the mullahs of Iran, the imams of the West Bank or the religious scholars of Cairo's al-Azhar University. Did our Secretary of State read the Cliff Notes Koran?

One who shares Condi's pro-Prophet euphoria is the House of Windsor's Dumbo. Prince Charles is heading here to lecture us on the need for greater acceptance of the swellest religion ever. Re: Islam, "I find the language and rhetoric coming from America too confrontational," the Prince of Wales maintains. Did Neville Chamberlain take too confrontational an approach to the Third Reich?

One of Charles's more distinguished countrymen had this to say of Islam: "Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities... But the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists anywhere in the world." Unlike Prince Charles, Winston Churchill didn't inherit his position, but did experience Islam in the raw.

I hope Rice's Iftaar remarks receive the widest possible circulation. It should help disillusion those conservatives who are pushing her as the GOP presidential candidate in '08. Who would she run with, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who called for Israel to be "wiped off the map"?



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 1:50:55 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769670
 
The muslims, like the Nazis, Imperialist Japanese, and Soviet Communists before them, profess allegiance to a system of beliefs based on hatred, violence, intolerance, and genocide.

If we've learned anything from history it is that you DO NOT try to reason with extremists like these. You must kill them before they kill you. You don't have to kill them all - just kill enough of the bad ones so that the remainder realize that there is just no future in what they are doing.



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 1:54:50 PM
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The islamic scum are simply testing the will of the French. What they've verified now is that appeasement and surrender are the order of the day. France will be ruled by sharia in the very near future. A tumor in the heart of europe.



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 1:57:27 PM
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"The Muslim uprising of the last week is a challenge to the half century of policy that has brought France to this point. Polices which deprecated European culture, frowned on a national identity, lowered the birthrate, created a welfare state, imported 'guest workers', promoted mindless multiculturalism and relied on 'international' treaties for protection -- all articles of Leftist faith -- are now facing the judgment of history; and worse, the verdict of Islam. It would be supremely ironical if the European Left, the 'vanguard of history', required for its future survival the very things it had set out to destroy."



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711237)11/5/2005 1:58:56 PM
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