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To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711280)11/5/2005 2:44:51 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769670
 
Intifada in France

New York Sun Editorial
November 4, 2005

If President Chirac thought he was going to gain peace with the Muslim community in France by taking an appeasement line in the Iraq war, it certainly looks like he miscalculated. Today the streets of the French capital are looking more like Ramallah and less like the advanced, sophisticated, gay Paree image Monsieur Chirac likes to portray to the world, and the story, which is just starting to grip the world's attention, is full of ironies. One is tempted to suggest that Prime Minister Sharon send a note cautioning Monsieur Chirac about cycles of violence.

Back in the 1990s, the French sneered at America for the Los Angeles riots. As the Chicago Sun-Times reported in 1992: "the consensus of French pundits is that something on the scale of the Los Angeles riots could not happen here, mainly because France is a more humane, less racist place with a much stronger commitment to social welfare programs." President Mitterrand, the Washington Post reported in 1992, blamed the riots on the "conservative society" that Presidents Reagan and Bush had created and said France is different because it "is the country where the level of social protection is the highest in the world."

How the times have changed. Muslims in Paris's suburbs are out shooting at police and firefighters, burning cars and buildings, and throwing rocks at commuter trains. Even children are out on the streets - it was reported that a 10-year-old was arrested. The trigger for the riots was the electrocution of two teenagers last Thursday, which the rioters say came following a police chase, a charge the police deny. But even if the charge by the rioters is true, that the police are culpable in the deaths of the two youths, the fact that such an incident would spark a riot is a sign of something deeper at work - no doubt France's failure to integrate its immigrant Muslim community.

It turns out that France's Muslim community lives in areas rampant with crime, poverty, and unemployment, much the fault of France's prized welfare system. There are those of us who spent part of the 1980s in Europe, supporting the idea, among others from the Reagan era, that immigration was a virtue for a country and that the racial or religious background of the immigrants did not matter. We maintain that view. But immigration into a country with a dirigiste economy is a recipe for trouble, which is why supporters of immigration into France have long warned of the need for liberalization.

Part of France's problem is that it has defaulted on those measures. The lack of labor market flexibility and other socialist policies have created unemployment at nearly 10%, most of which falls among immigrants. And part stems from the fact that France's estimated 5 million Muslims, out of a population of 60 million, are led by mostly foreign radical imams. Only belatedly has the French state started taking action, pressing for clerics to be taught in France. All this is compounded by the image France projects of itself to its Muslims, which one can surmise is the reason why Muslims see rioting as the solution to any grievance.

It's a barely kept secret that Mr. Chirac led the opposition to the Iraq war out of fear of how his Muslim population would react. This fear is a big part of why France portrays itself as America's counterweight and why it criticizes Israel at every turn and coddled the terrorist Yasser Arafat right up to his death. This doesn't elicit thanks from Muslim radicals in France. It turns out to project an image of weakness. Unsurprisingly when faced with some unhappiness they believe they can pressure the French state into submission.

A number of observers of the French scene have looked at population trends and suggested that France is on its way to becoming a Muslim country (one that would, let it be noted, be armed with hydrogen bombs). Some react to this by suggesting a halt to immigration and even expulsion. The better approach is to impose law and order, more speedily to reform the burdensome welfare state, and start integrating the Muslim community. France could also help itself by dispatching troops to help battle the radical Islamists in Iraq, thereby sending a message to Muslims at home and abroad that France is on the side of those Muslims, the majority no doubt, who want to live in peace.



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711280)11/5/2005 5:50:22 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769670
 
AN OBSCENE OMISSION

Yahoo News/N.Y. Post
November 4, 2005

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There is saintliness in a soldier's prospective acceptance of an honorable death in combat. To diminish such a deed, especially in service of a political agenda, approaches sacrilege.

So it was with the manner in which The New York Times last week noted the death of Cpl. Jeffrey Starr, USMC, of Snohomish, Wash., who was killed in Ramadi on April 30 during his third tour of duty in Iraq.

The young Marine's death was a centerpiece in the Times' coverage of America's 2,000th combat death in Iraq.

The newspaper's overview of the war is no secret: To hear the Times tell it, Americans are being slaughtered for no reason in an unjust war.

To bolster its argument, the Times last week publicly slandered the memory of a genuine American hero — Cpl. Starr.

In a profile of multiple-tour vets, the Times wrote about Starr — who served in the First Battalion of the Fifth Marine Regiment — and quoted from a letter to his girlfriend found on his computer after his death. "I kind of predicted this," it read, referring to his death. "A third time just seemed like I'm pushing my chances."

There it is — dark, foreboding, pessimistic, without any suggestion that he believed he was in Iraq for a valid purpose.

But, as columnist Michelle Malkin disclosed on these pages two days ago, after hearing from Starr's family, there was more to his letter — much more.

"I don't regret going," he wrote. "Everybody dies — but few get to do it for something as important as freedom."

Nor did he have any doubts or questions about his mission: "It may seem confusing why we're in Iraq, [but] it's not to me. . . . I'm here trying to help these people, so that they can live the way we live. Not have to worry about tyrants or vicious dictators. To do what they want with their lives.

"To me, that is why I died," wrote Starr. "Others have died for my freedom — now this is my mark."

Again: "Others have died for my freedom — now this is my mark."

Those words ought to be chiseled in granite somewhere.

But, for The New York Times, they weren't fit to print.

After all, they don't mesh with the anti-war message relentlessly promulgated by the self-proclaimed paper of record.

Jeffrey Starr's uncle wrote the Times, asking the editors to "honor Jeff by completing the story."

There was no response.



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711280)11/5/2005 5:52:52 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769670
 
But immigration expert Catherine Wihtol de Wenden downplayed chances the perpetrators of the violence -- ethnic immigrant youths, many of them of Muslim-North African origin -- were being fueled by radical Islam.

"I think most of these youths aren't practicing their religion strongly," said de Wenden, research director at the Paris-based Center of Political Studies and Research, said in an interview.

"I think there is no link between Islam and violence," she added.

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To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711280)11/5/2005 6:05:01 PM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Media's protection of Muslim rioters
WorldNetDaily ^ | 11/5/05 | Jack Cashill

The Nov. 4 headline of the online version of Le Figaro, a leading French daily, translates as follows: "After a week of riots, the violence continues."

The next eight sub-headlines all refer to the riots as well. They all suggest just how serious a situation this is:

"Tonight: A bus depot and 400 cars destroyed."

"Cars burned and vandalized; city dwellers are exasperated."

"Firemen grow increasingly angry."

On this same day, none of the major left-leaning European English language media – the BBC, Guardian and Times in Britain and the Irish Times – chose to report on the frightening chaos in France, at least not on the front pages of their online publications.

Read carefully, the lead article in Figaro suggests the reason for this unwitting conspiracy of silence. It tells how more than 315 cars have been burned in the heart of Paris in the last two days. Bus service has been interrupted. A school has been torched, and police have been shot at. Nor has the violence been limited to Paris. Buildings have been burned in at least a dozen cities around the country.

In Figaro, all these accounts of violence are written in the passive voice. One must read more than two hundred words into the article before learning that there are actual émeutiers – rioters – causing the problem. The riots began a week earlier when two "adolescents" ran from the police who were checking identification papers. Although the police did not chase them, the two youths hid in an electrical power sub-station and electrocuted themselves. This, of course, has led not to a Darwin Award – that will come later – but to much official hand-wringing and investigations of the police as well as a week of madness throughout the nation.

As to the demographics of the two boys and the rioters, the unknowing reader is left without a clue for the first 700 words of the article, save for the fact that they represent part of a "more global, anti-institutional struggle."

The first reference to "musulmans" presents them not as the perpetrators of the violence, but rather as its victims. The article tells of how the explosion of a tear gas grenade in front of a mosque exacerbated the tensions.

"Someone attacked a mosque," the Figaro quotes a young Muslim as saying, "and do you think this ignoble act would pass without response?" Obviously not, although as Figaro notes, the circumstances of the attack remain unclear. One need not be a cynic or a racist to suspect an agent provocateur, a concept the French named, if not invented.

The fact that official France has cozied up to the dissident element in this global struggle has obviously bought it no reprieve. This seemingly unprovoked mayhem by their musulman friends has embarrassed the French media into awkward apologetics and the European media into silence. Observing them, one begins to understand how Hitler was allowed to prosper.

"France herself is being attacked by foreign hordes," claims the reliably outspoken Jean-Marie Le Pen at the end of the article. Indeed, in a continent of cowards and compromisers, it should not come as a surprise that citizens will turn to the first public figure who dares say anything at all.



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711280)11/5/2005 10:36:29 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769670
 
13 Cars Torched As Unrest Reaches Paris
Nov 05, 2005 By ELAINE GANLEY Associated Press Writer

PARIS

The urban unrest that triggered scores of arson attacks on vehicles, nursery schools and other targets across France reached the capital overnight, with police saying early Sunday that 13 cars were burned.

By 1 a.m., at least 607 vehicles were burned _ including those in Paris, said Patrick Hamon, spokesman for the national police. The overall figures were expected to climb by daybreak, he added.

The violence _ originally concentrated in neighborhoods northeast of Paris with large immigrant populations _ has spread across France during the past 10 nights, extending west to the rolling fields of Normandy and south to resort cities on the Mediterranean.

In the Normandy town of Evreux, arsonists burned at least 50 vehicles, part of a shopping center, a post office and two schools, Hamon said.

Five police officers and three firefighters were injured battling the blazes, he said.

The unrest is forcing France to confront long-simmering anger in its suburbs, where many Africans and their French-born children live on society's margins, struggling with unemployment, poor housing, racial discrimination, crime and a lack of opportunity.

The violence that began Oct. 27 in a suburb northeast of Paris took an alarming turn late Saturday when arsonists struck in the French capital.

Hamon had no immediate information on the Paris neighborhoods where the vehicles were torched. Paris police headquarters said three cars were damaged by fire in the Republique section, northeast of City Hall.

Hamon called the spreading arson "copycat" acts by vandals.

"It's copycat acts," he said. "All these hoodlums see others setting fires and say they can do it, too."

Evreux, 60 miles to the west, appeared hardest hit by marauding youths. The number of vehicles burned likely would top 50, Hamon said.

The burning of the shopping center showed that "there is a will to pillage," Hamon said. "This has been true since the start," referring to grocery stores, video stores and other businesses that have been set afire.

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To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711280)11/5/2005 11:01:40 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769670
 
France under attack

Here is a quick recap of whats happened. Muslim or as the media says, those with African origin, have torched thousands of Cars, burned down a reported 7 schools, 2 post offices as well as a police station. Hundreds of businesses have been burned down, destroyed or vandalized severley. News is slow but steady. At least four are reported dead in Aulnay-Sous-Bois, as a result of an attack on Paramedics.

Recycling Facilities as well as Train Stations have been the latest target as of 11\5. Muslims leaders claim they want to hear words of peace from the Government. The Crisis shows no signs of slowing, with more and more riots and unrest popping up in sporadic cities around France. Muslim violence is also reported in the Netherlands.

The worst violence is to the North and Southwest of Paris. Reports from the BBC indicate the attacks have reached the city of Paris.

Surrender Monkeys

The French government with the excetption of the Hardline interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy has been very well...French. Chirach still wants to "talk"...wake up Jaques, your citizens are being killed, and their property is going up in flames...Vive Le Francistan!

Another Reason to close our borders

The problem for France, a large proportion of their population is Muslim, and no not the peace loving, 'Osama doesnt stand for us' Muslims,its the Radical car torching ones. So I guess were just hoping that we've got the good kind of Muslims in America. The ones who arent counting down the days until there is enough of them to pull a "Sous-Bois" In Detriot or Paterson.

Violence on the rise

The disaster is only getting worse. The riots are getting co-ordinated, and are turning away from their original 'hit-and-run tactics to an outright attack. Look at the pictures on the news. This isnt Baghdad or the Westbank, it's France. The President of Iran Mohammed "Exterminate Israel" Ahmenijad has called for more riots, and these "riots" are starting to look more like Co-ordinated insurgency. Public Targets are now being hit, as opposed to random businesses. Who would have thought the Terrorism Hierarchy is exploiting youths?

<3MSM+Terroists<3

The MSM has been quite itself covering this story. Heres a catch up on the latest lingo...Youths=Terrorists...Immigrants of African Origin=Muslims. Youth Immigrants of African Origin = Muslims Terrorists. Riots=Revolution.

Mohammed's Dream

What we are seeing in France is what the Terrorists want to happen all over the world. Muslims gather sheer numbers and lay seige to multi-culturalist appeasing Governments. Here we see the dangers of the Liberal Culture of appeasement.

"Le France" Is under attack, and the dreams of Bin-Laden, Zarqawi, Ahmenijad and Co. are coming true. We now have substatial evidence that is all over the media that Muslims are not peaceful, and the MSM sooner or later will not be able to block that out.

There is still some hope. A resident of Aunlay-S-B was quoted by the BBC as saying "I dont know if its a war they want, but if they come for my car or house, I'll have my Gun."

The Cards have been dealt, the sides have been set. Its your turn Jaques. Frankly, thats what worries me.



To: Geoff Altman who wrote (711280)11/5/2005 11:06:31 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 769670
 
Paris inferno is ominous
---The Sunday Telegraph ^ | 6 Nov 05 | Piers Akerman

November 6, 2005 Paris is burning - burning furiously with a blind rage that Australian authorities must heed if suburbs in Sydney and Melbourne are not to suffer the same fate.

For more than a week, Muslim youths in more than 20 Paris-region towns have created a wave of violence in which more than 300 cars have been have burnt and hundreds of millions of francs worth of property destroyed.

The suburbs, many of them among France's poorest, have been declared off-limits to police by militant Muslims, who have turned them into religious ghettos where Islamist extremists and criminals have free rein.

The trigger for the outbreak of riots were the deaths of two youths, Ziad, 17, and Banou, 15, who were electrocuted after climbing into an electricity substation in Clichy-sous-Bois on October 27.

Their friends claim they were fleeing police, but the French authorities say they were running "for no reason", incorrectly believing police were pursuing them.

There are obvious parallels with Sydney's Redfern riots of February, 2004, sparked when 17-year-old Thomas "T.J." Hickey died after being impaled on a fence paling when he panicked at the sight of a police patrol seeking a bag-snatcher, and the Macquarie Fields riots a year later, which erupted when two youths, Matt Robertson, 19, and a 17-year-old, died in a stolen car that crashed during a police chase.

But just as ominous are other underlying grievances. In the 751 zones French authorities have designated areas of special concern, unemployment stands at 19.6 per cent – double the national average, and at more than 30 per cent among 21- to 29-year-olds.

In the predominantly Islamic suburbs of Sydney and Melbourne, unemployment numbers were even higher among Muslims, according to figures obtained from the Australian Bureau of Statistics' 2001 census.

In NSW, unemployment in the Islamic community in Auburn was 26.2 per cent, in Canterbury 20.3 per cent, Liverpool 20.6 per cent and Bankstown 20.2 per cent. In Victoria, Muslim unemployment in Moonee Valley-Essendon ran at 39.1 per cent, in Darebin-Preston it was 27.6 per cent and in Dandenong 21.1 per cent.

In the general community, unemployment has been at historically low levels.

In mosques in both France and Australia, mullahs and imams have been preaching messages of unconditional hate towards the West and, in particular, towards Jews and Israel.

There have also been riots in Denmark, where the daily newspaper Jyllands-Posten featured a series of cartoons depicting the prophet Mohammed as an exercise in free speech after an author complained that nobody dared illustrate his book on the founder of Islam.

Editor-in-chief Carsten Juste said: "We live in a democracy, that's why we can use all the journalistic methods we want to. Satire is accepted in this country, and you can make caricatures. Religion shouldn't set any barriers on that sort of expression. This doesn't mean that we wish to insult any Muslims."

In one cartoon, Mohammed was shown wearing a turban-like bomb and, in another, brandishing a sabre, with two burka-clad women behind him.

The pattern is, again, sadly familiar. Muslims in Western countries constantly resort to civil-rights law to claim their religion has been vilified or ridiculed, though some Islamic nations outlaw all other religions and turn a blind eye toward persecution of non-Muslims.

Ironically, France has long claimed to be one of the world's most tolerant nations and has played down ethnic differences in the community.

With its Muslim population estimated at five million, western Europe's largest, the dam has finally burst. Both immigrant and French-born Muslims claim they are treated as second-class citizens and discriminated against in employment, housing and opportunities for advancement.

The reality, as the French are finding, the Danish are learning and the British found when they sought some rationale for the development of the home-grown terrorists responsible for the July 7 bombing of the London public transport system, and as the Dutch discovered a year ago last week when film-maker Theo van Gogh had his throat ritually slit by a Muslim born in Holland, is that there are considerable populations of extremists who owe their sole allegiance to a fanatical brand of Islam and not to any nation.

As historian Francis Fukuyama noted in a recent article in The Wall Street Journal: "We have tended to see jihadist terrorism as something produced in dysfunctional parts of the world, such as Afghanistan, Pakistan or the Middle East, and exported to Western countries ...

"There is good reason for thinking, however, that a critical source of contemporary radical Islamism lies not in the Middle East, but in western Europe.

"In addition to Mohammed Bouyeri (convicted of the Dutch murder), the London bombers and the March 11 Madrid bombers, ringleaders of the September 11 attacks, such as Mohamed Atta, were radicalised in Europe.

"In the Netherlands, where upwards of 6 per cent of the population is Muslim, there is plenty of radicalism, despite the fact that Holland is both modern and democratic. And there exists no option for walling the Netherlands off from this problem."

Nor, for that matter can we wall off Australia from the influences of extremists, despite the anti-globalisation protests of assorted dopey Greens and Democrats, and ABC presenters.

Radical Islam is using all the modern tools of the globalised Internet and cheap air travel to spread a hate-filled medieval philosophy that gives some hope to young Muslims trapped in their ghettos and fearful of integration.

Unfortunately, blinded by the mantra of multiculturalism, too many of our leaders have encouraged these young men and women to remain isolated from the freedom of choice offered by our culture and left vulnerable to the perverted teachings of an abominable death cult.