To: Rich Bloem who wrote (48464 ) 11/5/2005 7:26:15 PM From: Eric L Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 196499 Spherical Cows and Defying the Laws of Physics Rich, << Raymond, I suggest that you may want to check on your CDMA history. Yes, CDMA was not invented by Qualcomm. However, Qualcomm invented and pioneered the use of CDMA in a commercial cellular system when the rest of the world said it was impossible and defied the laws of physics. >> Rich, I suggest that you may want to check on YOUR cellular history and cdma history <g> (although I think, in reality, you know it better than many). This much is accurate ... Qualcomm invented and pioneered the use of CDMA in a commercial cellular system ... This is NOT accurate and (as you know) is an indulgence in hyperbole ...... when the rest of the world said it was impossible and defied the laws of physics. ... and I think maybe thee be readin too much "Cellular History for Gullible Dummies" authored by Jeff Belk and inspired by Dr. Irwin Mark Jacobs (and more recently PJ). Don Cox, the Bell Labs and Bellcore genius, father of PCS (PACS), and later a professor a professor of electrical engineering at Stanford is not "the rest of the world," and commencing in 1985 and even as they various players were commercializing PDC, IS-54 and then IS-136 TDMA, and GSM Phase 1, then GSM Phase 2, and then (and now evolving) GSM Phase 2+, the major global wireless equipment manufacturers and carriers like DoCoMo were conducting research on cdma and cdma hybrids and in 1996 the Japanese FPLMTS committee which QUALCOMM declined an invitation to join several years earlier (but which Nokia and Ericsson had joined) had selected WCDMA as their candidate technology for ITU IMT-2000 submission. After all technology companies thrive on overcoming issues that defy the laws of physics ... and as even Jeff Belk would say, if companies throw enough time and money at technology issues and barriers they will overcome them as the Korean carriers and manufacturers helped QUALCOMM to do in 1996 ... ... and while their was certainly an attempt to design around QUALCOMM standards to the degree that was possible this statement is not wholly accurate and only the most gullible and uninformed would buy off on it in it's entirety ... WCDMA standards were created in an attempt to design around Q's fundamental IPR. QUALCOMM is the last wireless company in the world to be able to intelligently comment how and/or why ETSI's and ARIB's FPLMTS/UMTS/IMT-2000 requirements evolved and were translated into UMTS and UTRA technology requirements and standards that went well beyond an attempt to workaround QUALCOMM IP -- and they sure couldn't change em -- because QUALCOMM was busy trying to commercialize their own implementation of terrestrial cdma mobile wireless technology that they first demonstrated in late 1989 and as a consequence participated in none of the numerous collaborative FPLMTS/UMTS research projects including those focused on wideband CDMA that took place from 1987 to 1997 in Europe and Asia. << Gawd, this post is starting to look like one of Eric's. Anyway you get my drift, I am sure. >> LOL! Did you just take my name in vain ... AGAIN? <g> Did Jeff Belk ghostwrite your post? <gg> And yes, the scrawny blue chickens got scrunched by UMass today but I wrote them off last week anyway. At least in the big leagues the Nittany Lions whooped the Badgers preserving some dignity for the tri-state area today. Best, - Eric -