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Politics : Don't Blame Me, I Voted For Kerry -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Dan B. who wrote (69507)	11/6/2005 12:42:00 PM
From: Orcastraiter	Respond to of 81568

Bush and Cheney already stated the reason for the veto. It was because of the torture language. They want to continue the CIA torture, which would have to end under the bill. Hagel: Torture Exemption Would Be Mistake WASHINGTON - A leading Republican senator said Sunday that the Bush administration is making "a terrible mistake" in opposing a congressional ban on torture and other inhuman treatment of prisoners in U.S. custody. The ban was approved by a 90-9 vote last month in the Senate and added to a defense spending bill. The White House has threatened a veto, but the fate of the proposal depends on House-Senate negotiations that will reconcile different versions of the spending measure. The House‘s does not include the ban. Vice President Dick Cheney has lobbied Republican senators to allow an exemption for those held by the CIA if preventing an attack is at stake. McCain, citing the Senate vote as well as support from the public and from former Secretary of State Colin Powell and others with government service, said he will push the issue with the White House "as far as necessary." Mistreatment of prisoners at Iraq ‘s Abu Ghraib prison and allegations of mistreatment at the U.S.-run camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, have drawn withering criticism from around the world. Human rights organizations also contend that the United States sends detainees to countries that it knows will use torture to try to extract intelligence information. The president would have to approve the exemption, according to the administration proposal, and any activity would have to be consistent with the Constitution, federal law and U.S. treaty obligations. Appearing with Hatch on CBS‘s "Face the Nation," Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment of prisoners "is not what America is all about. Those aren‘t the values that we‘re fighting for." heraldnewsdaily.com Orca

To: Dan B. who wrote (69507)	11/6/2005 3:06:20 PM
From: Orcastraiter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 81568

Senate unanimously restates position on torture: WASHINGTON, Nov. 4 - The Senate restated its support on Friday for banning the abusive treatment of prisoners in American custody, and the measure's Republican sponsor chided the House Republican leadership for delaying a vote on it. The Senate approved the same provision last month, 90 to 9. On Friday, senators endorsed it again, this time by a unanimous voice vote, and attached it to a revised military spending bill. The White House has threatened to veto the bill if it includes the measure, saying the provision would restrict the president's ability to protect the country. Only the most extreme right wing fanatics, like Bush and Cheney, maintain the position that Torture is needed. You stand with them on defending torture? Orca