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To: Rambi who wrote (4993)	11/6/2005 7:44:53 PM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 542054

What I agree with you on is the damage done in demeaning of the homemaker and maternal role by women themselves. I do, too. I remember that period. Some of the feminists got off track there, I think, very shrill. Bad move. I never did that. It's always been about choice for me.

To: Rambi who wrote (4993)	11/6/2005 8:00:57 PM
From: epicure	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542054

I was recently reading a bunch of articles about women with children slipping further in to poverty, and that pisses me off. I didn't know a lot of frustrated and angry women- except my mother, who felt she had to work because my father had a melanoma, and she wanted to stay home, but couldn't. The women on our street seemed pretty conent- they had lovely homes, they threw great birthday parties, they had well kept children, who behaved in school. I was looking for statistics similar to these for the US- I know they exist, because I've seen them, but this is why I'm angry: stats.govt.nz What I have seen in the schools is a generation of children who are not being parented adequately- they aren't being fed properly, they aren't being played with, and they don't know the things you and I knew- like simple nursery rhymes. I don't think parents have suddenly turned to crap- but I do think they are no longer home to parent. Here's some important data on eating together- look at the 0-3 meals a week, 31%! childtrendsdatabank.org from childtrendsdatabank.org

To: Rambi who wrote (4993)	11/7/2005 9:07:55 AM
From: Suma	Respond to of 542054

Great post, Rambi.. I think it summarizes my situation too.. My mother's was completely different. She knew no other way than to be a homemaker and she had sufficient talent to have been anything that she wanted. She just never knew that... It's interesting too that some men choose women who have to be completely dependent on them. My sisters one son married a Mexican girl who lets him order for her in a restaurant....which is considered proper but he chooses what she is to eat. He needs the power... My father could never have married a woman who was independent. He needed to have a woman dependent on him in every way. But times they are a changing...hopefully.