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To: bela_ghoulashi who wrote (146016)	11/6/2005 11:45:27 PM
From: bela_ghoulashi	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

appeasement is regarded as compassion The War for Europe by J. Thomas Lowry It is alarming, though not surprising, to view the video from France. Each frame of film records, for posterity, the collapse of social order into chaos as perpetrated by Islamic gangs. Whilst the world appears shocked, few on the right have been caught unawares. France occupies rarified air among the eight countries that project economic power across the globe. Never content to accept their role the French alone openly pander to North Africa and Islamic states. As a country with wealth and culture this is necessarily a bad thing as events have proven. Yet, to anyone with an orientation towards the past for guidance, it is not unexpected. The French people possess an inferiority streak that is peculiar, inasmuch as it applies to their national identity. One need only read a history of the twentieth century to note the failures of France, both internally and, as is often pointed out, externally. That the German army made France their personal campsite twice during the century is enough to understand the French distaste for, in their minds, inferior cultures that resort to war. Yet, in the images that are broadcast one is witness to a failure of epic proportions. The desire to be a world power is bloodlust among French leaders, so much so that in order to salve the conscience of a nation that deals nuclear material to the highest bidder, appeasement is regarded as compassion. What is left then is social disorder. Social apologists proclaim that the riots are merely a cry for help among those feeling alienated by French society. In short France has failed her citizenry either way. If the Islamic thugs are forced to be subservient then all the hyperbole about France being an open and superior culture is drivel. Conversely if what is happening is the result of pandering to the Islamic hordes, which is more likely, then France has once again failed, in a Maginot Wall failure, to protect her internal security. It must be noted that a failure in internal security in France has international consequences. The French are a nuclear power. Therein lays a very clear and present danger. It is doubtful that roving gangs will ever be able to access French military sites. The greatest threat will come from concessions that the government will grant to avoid further problems. Make no mistake; France will capitulate. In doing so Islamic clerics will gain a more noticeable foothold in establishing policy. It will begin locally but will spread. If this sounds far-fetched consider the attacks on American soil. How many were caught unaware. Yet the United States acted swift and decisively to mitigate the threat. The citizenry demanded it and history shows that the United States, when faced with decisions about self preservation, will act accordingly. France has no such history. In fact much of the government of France became Nazi collaborators in the Vichy government, including their greatest living military hero, Petain. There is little to suggest that this internal threat, while not as critical as tanks rumbling through the countryside, is as dangerous in the long term. If France follows history there will be another titanic internal struggle and it will be left to an outside force to rectify the problem. J Thomas Lowry is a writer and amateur historian with interests in conservative and military history. He provides content daily on his weblog, Musings Per Diem. perdiem.blogs.com mensnewsdaily.com

To: bela_ghoulashi who wrote (146016)	11/7/2005 1:04:14 AM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793955

IRAN REQUESTS FRESH TALKS 7.11.2005. 12:44:42 www9.sbs.com.au European Union officials have rebuked requests from Iran to reopen talks on its controversial nuclear program because the Islamic republic has failed to comply with requests to freeze its fuel cycle work. Iran on Sunday formally asked Britain, France and Germany to reopen negotiations on giving the Islamic republic trade and other benefits in exchange for guarantees its nuclear program is peaceful, Iranian news agencies said. Iran's top nuclear official Ali Larijani has sent the countries' foreign ministers a letter "insisting on the necessity of negotiations," the official IRNA news agency said. In the letter, Mr Larijani said Iran would "welcome negotiations that are constructive and based on logic", the first such approach since he took over the nuclear file after hardliner Mahmoud Ahmadinejad became president in June. But the letter also insisted on "Iran's need to exercise its legitimate rights and to see its national interests guaranteed," agencies said, an apparent reference to Iran’s intention to start fresh nuclear fuel work. 'Unacceptable' While no official response has been issued yet, an EU diplomat said Iran’s request for talks was unacceptable because Iran had refused requests to suspend uranium fuel work. In London, a spokesman for the Foreign Office said: "We are not going to comment on that. We are still considering our response." There was no immediate reaction from Paris and Berlin. Negotiations between Iran and the so-called EU-3 broke off in August when Iran resumed uranium conversion activities in defiance of international calls for a suspension. Uranium conversion is a prelude to making enriched uranium, which is used for fuel for nuclear power reactors, and also for the explosive core of atom bombs. Iran said on Sunday that it would be converting a fresh batch of uranium ore, in a flagrant rejection of calls to halt the work. "We have told the (International Atomic Energy) Agency (IAEA) that we are going to inject new initial materials (uranium ore) into the production chain," Javad Vaidi, an official from Iran's Supreme National Security Council, told state television. The work would take place at a conversion plant in Isfahan in central Iran. Iran says it only wishes to enrich to the low-level purity required for reactor fuel. The EU-3 has attempted to persuade Iran to permanently suspend uranium enrichment as a watertight guarantee that its nuclear program is peaceful. But Iran insists its right to enrichment is enshrined in both the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and its additional protocol. An EU diplomat, who asked not to be identified due to the sensitivity of the issue, said Iran’s intended resumption of uranium conversion was “not the right basis for re-starting the negotiations.” Another diplomat, also from an EU-3 country, said the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) "has called for Iran to suspend conversion at Isfahan, and until the Iranians do that it's hard to see how negotiations can take place." Iran faces the risk of referral to the UN Security Council over its atomic program, after the IAEA in September found it to be in "non-compliance" with the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). The IAEA is to meet on the matter on November 24 and is expected to put off deciding on Iran until a later meeting. US concerns The United States, meanwhile, will contact EU diplomats about Iran’s request to renew talks. "We will be in touch with the EU-3 on Monday morning so we can become fully informed about the letter's content but until we are in touch with the EU-3 we are going to withhold comment," State Department spokesperson Justin Higgins told news agency AFP. SOURCE: World News

To: bela_ghoulashi who wrote (146016)	11/7/2005 7:32:02 AM
From: unclewest	Respond to of 793955

The leaders of the movement behind the riots aren't demanding that the French embrace them. Their objective is to transform France into an Islamic state... it is to terrorize the French until they convert to Islam, and to enslave those who don't convert. At first glance at the above it seems...Wow! Somebody gets it. The writer was doing great until he relieved the French of responsibility for a solution for France and placed it on us. it's not easy to see the way out. The best hope may be that the U.S. succeeds in its efforts to transform the Middle East... The best hope for France is to get off their ass, partner up and get involved in the WOT in a large way. Thank goodness this is not a religious war. uw