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To: Sully- who wrote (15568)	11/7/2005 2:42:58 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

Republicans Seeking Investigation Into Covert Prisons Leak? By Rob on Domestic Issues Say Anything <<< American Spectator - Word out of the Senate is that some Republicans are looking to Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman, Sen. Pat Roberts, to open a full investigation into the leak by CIA staffers of so-called “black sites” overseas. These facilities house captured al Qaeda and other terrorists, and are maintained by the CIA. The Washington Post reported on the sites, using information gathered from sources inside the CIA, both the House and Senate Intelligence Committees, and the group, Human Rights Watch, which, according to an HRW source, has been getting inside information from Democratic staff on both House and Senate Committees. Although Post withheld the locations of specific “black sites,” the London Times quickly followed up. Citing the human rights group as a source, it identified not only the nations where they might be located — both of which are staunch allies in America’s War on Terrorism — but also the flight plans used by the CIA to transport the prisoners. “This leak not only put CIA operatives at risk by identifying the locations, including ones that are supposedly no longer being used, it put our national security at risk here at home and put civilian lives in the countries that are helping us at risk. Weigh this leak against the one Democrats are all hopped up about and there is no comparison,” says a Republican staffer for a Senator considering making a formal request for the investigation. >>> Last week, when this story broke, I called for an investigation into the leak. I’m glad to see that the idea is getting some attention in Washington. If the leak of the identity of a CIA desk jockey who joined with her husband in a partisan escapade aimed at producing the background for a smear campaign against the President is worthy of two years worth of investigation, countless pages and hours of media scrutiny and tens of millions of America tax dollars than certainly the situation described above is worthy of the same. Will the situation get it? One would hope so, as the leak was a serious one. Exponentially more serious than the Plame leak. But while the leak may well get an investigation, I doubt it would ever get the type of media coverage the Plame leak got for one simple reason: Investigating this leak doesn’t reflect badly on the President. feeds.feedburner.com sayanythingblog.com

To: Sully- who wrote (15568)	12/26/2005 4:22:22 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

This is disgusting! Seriously! If they don't suffer from Bush Derangement Syndrome, what is their problem? Betsy's Page Howard Kurtz reports that the Bush administration called in Leonard Downie, the executive editor of the Washington Post, to request that they not publish Dana Priest's story about certain terror suspects being questions in prisons in secret prisons abroad. Reportedly, President Bush made a personal request. "When senior administration officials raised national security questions about details in Dana's story during her reporting, at their request we met with them on more than one occasion," Downie says. "The meetings were off the record for the purpose of discussing national security issues in her story." At least one of the meetings involved John Negroponte, the director of national intelligence, and CIA Director Porter Goss, the sources said. That really is amazing that the President, director of national intelligence, and the head of the CIA could talk to the Washington Post about the risks of running the story and that they would go ahead and do so anyway. Apparently, the editors and reporters feel that they are better able to judge what endangers national security. I know that this attitude stems from Vietnam and Watergate, but it really is hubristic of the national press to think so well of their abilities to decide what the impact of their reporting is on national security. betsyspage.blogspot.com washingtonpost.com

To: Sully- who wrote (15568)	1/24/2006 10:47:02 PM
From: Sully-	Respond to of 35834

No Irrefutable Evidence US 'Outsourced' Torture By Bill Nienhuis PunditGuy A European human rights investigator says there is evidence that the US outsourced torture to other European countries, and that the involved countries know about it. Oh, and that evidence he says he has? Well, it doesn’t really exist. Yet, the story gets reported as if he does. <<< Swiss senator Dick Marty, who heads an investigation by the Council of Europe human rights watchdog, said he had not uncovered any irrefutable evidence to confirm allegations that the CIA operated secret detention centers in Europe. His remarks, in a preliminary report, kept pressure on the CIA and European governments over allegations that the U.S. intelligence agency flew prisoners through airports in Europe to jails in third countries where they may have been tortured. "There is a great deal of coherent, convergent evidence pointing to the existence of a system of 'relocation' or 'outsourcing of torture'," Marty said in his initial report into the allegations for the 46-nation Council, based in the eastern French city of Strasbourg. He said it had been proved that "individuals have been abducted, deprived of their liberty and transported to different destinations in Europe, to be handed over to countries in which they have suffered degrading treatment and torture." >>> A “great deal of coherent, convergent evidence” huh? Fine, hand it over. Oh, I forgot! You don’t really have that “great deal of coherent, convergent evidence”. It probably just feels good to say it though right? <<< Denis MacShane, a former minister for Europe in U.S. ally Britain, told reporters that Marty's report "has more holes than a Swiss cheese." "I have read it carefully and there is nothing new, no proof, no witness statement, no document that justifies the claims made," MacShane, a British member of parliament, said. "The report simply re-circulates newspaper allegations and sustains the anti-American propaganda that seeks to divide the democracies of Europe and the world when we should be united to defeat those who murdered hundreds of Europeans in (bomb attacks in) Madrid and London, and who plan fresh attacks." >>> This is exactly what we have here. The press has made unsubstantiated, baseless allegations, and anti-American groups have jumped on it. Why? Because they hate Bush and his policies. And that’s a good enough reason to continue to report fiction as fact I guess. I was watching ‘The Today Show’ on NBC and you know what? They reported this story, but stuffed the part about the evidence not really existing. As usual, the MSM feeds on this kind of stuff, and they run with the story until it is finally refuted, then they’ll run a correction on page ‘E-28’, or in the case of the Today Show, they’ll ignore it. punditguy.com news.yahoo.com