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To: Oral Roberts who wrote (146195)	11/8/2005 8:22:01 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 793731

I would say all school. That is the point I was trying and failing to make. One of the stories I heard at my father's knee was about how, when he started school having learned Slovak, not English, at home, he wet his pants in the classroom because he didn't know how to ask the teacher to go to the bathroom. I don't think that accomplishes anything. You need a working knowledge of English before you can learn anything in the classroom. Geometry is hard enough for many kids who were born speaking the language. I think LB's point is well taken about immersion in kindergarten. You don't need language to finger paint and kids are more apt about picking up languages then. High school is different.

To: Oral Roberts who wrote (146195)	11/8/2005 8:52:30 AM
From: Bill Ulrich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793731

Funny you should mention that ... was recently chatting with one of those 20-something college students you often see at the coffee shops, dive bars and Ken Burns museum exhibits. She had the full complement of piercings, the requisite "Tramp Stamp" tattoo (those backside inks, just 3 inches above butt crack), and was nearing completion of her M.S. Education degree. Inquiring about her desire to become an elementary teacher, I received in reply: "Like, you know, English is my mother tongue and stuff."