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Pastimes : SPIRITUALITY and its effect on Religion - Are they the same? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: 2MAR$ who wrote (20)	11/9/2005 12:37:44 PM
From: LLCF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 65

<But they also declare that the basic Darwinian theory that all life had a common origin and that natural chemical processes created the building blocks of life > First of all, overall Darwin's theory was a theory there are parts that can be pretty much assumed to be proven as far as I'm concerned, but that wouldn't include anything to do with life spontaneosly {without divinity} happening out of chemicals... second I'm not aware that Darwin commented on the existance of god in his theory or officially implied that god didn't have a 'hand' in evolution. Privately he had his suspicions I think, but then who doesn't. So I don't really get what all the hoopla is about. One can {The Catholic Church} easily reconcile Darwin AND god no? <They have ? Can't wait to see the "published" paper ...> Well I think they are taking the extreme reductionist version of Darwin's evolution {that life arose from chemical reactions and no god, or "life force" is needed AND that evolution is 'ramdom mutation'} when making this assertion. Is there a 'need' to do that?? Aren't they over reacting? I think they are then speaking of possible examples of very rapid evolution being uncovered that points to more than 'ramdom mutation'. <Vatican reads the scriptures differently and finds evolution compatible> Well, sure... since (the modern) god is omnipresent, of course it IS evolution. Evolution IS gods way of creating under this scenario. The real questions to be asking IMHO is "is there a god" or in the near term as far as evolution is concerned: try to prove the mechanism for the evolutionary process. For now that would probably be can it be (or is it) random or not? Again, I think this is all being WAY overblown. If one side is saying evolution proves no god (or that god isn't one of the building blocks so to speak), or the other is saying evolution doesn't happen as proved by science, then that is where the problem lies. Since observed science can't be disputed, nor can science prove there is no god (yet?), so where is the problem? DAK