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To: LindyBill who wrote (146479)11/10/2005 1:11:51 PM
From: D. Long  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793955
 
To a lot of people, it embraces the merest roughness or unkindness -- a shove, a kick, a slap, sleep deprivation, and so on

When the ICJ ruled on Israel's use of "moderate physical pressure" years ago, they concluded that shaking a prisoner's shoulders amounted to banned torture, cruel, or degrading punishment.

Yes, shaking a prisoner is too much. ::shrug::

Derek



To: LindyBill who wrote (146479)11/10/2005 6:28:54 PM
From: KLP  Respond to of 793955
 
Anyone know how the UN defines torture? They don't do a good job with "terrorism" either?

Maybe we should define torture as "don't do as Saddam, Idi Amin, Hitler, Stalin, PolPot, the Bosnians, Iran, North Korea, Libya, Castro, Chevez, and all the other murdering thugs that have, and are, running countries."

And we could have some of the current batch of loud mouths who are whining that we are "torturing" not only prove that, but define the word as well.