To: Road Walker who wrote (259596 ) 11/22/2005 5:34:35 PM From: TimF Respond to of 1583717 Energy companies are subsidized up the yin yang, this is hardly a virgin marketplace. You keep repeating that, as if I was asserting that there was no intervention or subsides in the oil market. I never asserted that there where no subsidies, nor have I argued for such subsidies. re: And the smallest and least safe, and often not particularly popular despite their fuel economy and relatively low cost. Screw popularity... it changes with the wind. Which amounts to "screw people getting what they want they are going to get what I think they should have". A totalitarian idea even if your form of implementing it isn't quite so harsh as most attempts to implement such ideas. re: The lower prices would counteract any benefit from the lowered demand from more efficient machinery. You would be reducing incentives to economize both in the use of the more efficient machinery and in the purchase and use of any types of machinery that are not covered by the scheme. Crap, give me a specific example. If you lower the price of something you reduce the incentive to economize on its use. If your plan does reduce the amount of gasoline consumed by passenger vehicles, and that reduction does result in a large reduction of the price of gasoline, then everything else that uses gasoline (and to a lesser extent other oil derived products) will probably use more gasoline. (Lower prices bring higher demand. Demand curve. Its Econ 101). If your proposal actually is implemented as is as successful as you think it will be, this effect will most likely be smaller than the primary effect you are trying to achieve, but it will reduce any possible net positive from your plan. As for specific examples, do you really want a list of everything that uses oil that isn't covered by your plan? It would be long, and still not comprehensive. Sorry, my wife is making me go out to dinner... if i have a chance i will respond to the rest later. Take your time. I do. <g> Hope you had a nice dinner. Tim