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To: Noel de Leon who wrote (174829)11/12/2005 4:27:31 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 281500
 
as pointing out that using a 2000 year old government doesn't form the basis for a present governmental take over of other's land(farmers').

Why don't you tell that to the Coptics of Egypt..

I'm putting a price on invading a totally weakened state and that price is oil, not democracy.

Granted.. democracy, in terms of "realpolitik" is admittedly secondary, given that we're not spending blood and treasure to alter every petty dictatorship and Monarchy.

The REALITY IS that the oil wealth of most of these countries in the region provide the financial means for some petty thugs to control it for the purpose of advancing their grandiose visions of empire.

So if it isn't the west "controlling" who ultimately benefits from this oil wealth (hopefully via an accountable democratically elected government), it will be some of other authoritarian/totalitarian entity.

By the way which democratic states are we defending from being invaded.

Right now.. Iraq and Korea..

Iraq is a democratic state now.. although only in infantile definition. Much is definitely still wrong here.. But the government is democratically elected by a percentage of voters that FAR EXCEEDS the level of voter participation in the US.

Hawk