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To: Lane3 who wrote (146900)11/14/2005 3:08:26 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793927
 
What would be very interesting would be the effect of political decisions. When the citizen share price drops with the announcement of another dopey decision, the responsible politicians might find it a good idea to recant.

Mq



To: Lane3 who wrote (146900)11/14/2005 9:18:25 PM
From: Lane3  Respond to of 793927
 
A Daily Survey of What the International Online Media Are Saying
Posted at 11:35 AM ET, 11/14/2005
Mideast Media Ask: Can France and Islam Coexist?

Who is to blame? The French people? France's government? The Muslim immigrants themselves?

When it comes to the riots that swept France over the last two weeks, commentators in the Arab online media are divided. Some blame French secularism, many blame a more general European racism, but some blame the Arab immigrants themselves.

The BBC's press survey suggests the dominant view is that racism is the primary cause of the unrest. Abdul Bari Atwan, a leading Arab columnist, writes in Al Quds al Arabi that the violence is "a warning to all European governments. It is an expected outcome of policies that look down on foreigners and deal with them as if they were a terrorist time bomb."

Fehmi Koru, writing in Turkey's Yeni Safak, says "the French system, which promises 'equality, freedom and justice' to every citizen, does not act at all equally and fairly towards those with 'Muslim' roots who form part of its society. This shows itself mostly in religion-based separatist practices. For example, the education system uses simplistic excuses to practice exclusion on the basis of religion.

But Ahmed Al-Rabei says the problem is less racism than the failure of Arabs in France to combat it. The immigrants must hold themselves accountable "for the degree of contradiction between the grand size of this community and their meager accomplishments in the field of politics, economics, culture and academic life," he writes in Al Sharq Alawsat.

"The second-generation Arab community in France has not been able to organize itself in a civilized manner, nor achieve any major accomplishments within French society that may lead to them playing a more substantial role, thus weaken the policies of extreme racist factions," he writes."The French Arabs should live as French citizens and will have to prove that they are part of French society. Such action entails higher level of achievement, mobilization to enhance the living and educational standards of French Arabs and defeating those who stigmatize the Arab minority.

"Firstly, they must divest themselves of the 'Ghetto' complex, mix with French culture; make the most of democracy and civil institutions to achieve real accomplishments and not to be portrayed as an angry group out to cause destruction."

The conservative Iranian daily Jomhouri-ye Eslami, quoted in the Middle East Media Research Institute, says "repression" makes integration of Muslims into European society impossible.

"...Every looted store reflects the repression that the residents of the Elysée have imposed upon the poor and downtrodden people of their country. This is the exposure of all the lies that the French politicians maintain in their glittering and sparkling demands [to be considered] defenders of human rights everywhere," they write.

"Discrimination is also rising in England, Germany, America, Canada, and many other Western countries... are suffering from this disease... The French people see the discrimination, the repression, and the hypocrisy of the French politicians. These matters, in addition to the problems of poverty and hunger, were too hard to bear, and have led them to rebel against their politicians. The domestic reality in France is now revealed. The politicians of Paris can no longer hide the ugly face of the country's racist discrimination..."

Qatar's Al Watan daily on November 7 said that the French government should not be blamed completely for the events, saying that the immigrants were partly to blame for their impoverished conditions, according to a press survey in the Cairo-based Middle East Times.

"The first three immigrant generations of Africans and Arabs have contributed to widening the gap between them" and the "original residents by closing up on themselves, taking easy jobs and neglecting their education. Their children are today paying the price for a problem that has been growing for half a century."

Tariq Ramadan, a leading Islamic intellectual, said colorblind secularism and class discrimination are more to blame than racism. Writing in the French Islamic Web site Oumma (in French), he says the the phenomena of racism and of the ghettos must be dealt with through education, which has to reflect the contribution of the immigrants to French society.

"The school curricula include very little about the history and traditions of those people who make up French society today. If formal education does not acknowledge the contribution of the parents, it will be difficult to make them believe that their sons are appreciated," he writes. According to Ramadan, the legitimate demands of the French and British Muslim citizens are not being heard, "and their violence, though illegitimate in its means, can, unfortunately, be understood."

But expatriate Iranian writer Amir Taheri counters that poverty, racism and cultural alienation alone cannot account for the widespread violence.

"After all the Paris region is also home to substantial numbers of Asian, mainly Vietnamese and Chinese immigrants who are as poor, as culturally alienated and as subject to racial pressure as are the inhabitants of the 'exploding suburbs.'

"The indigenous French do not consider the Asian community as a threat to the very idea of Frenchness if only because it has no universal pretensions," he writes.

"The Muslim immigrant minority, however, is perceived as a threat because Islam regards itself as a universal faith and an alternative to Western civilisation. Most indigenous Frenchmen are persuaded that their own culture and civilisation is the best that mankind has ever produced and that Islam's pretensions are misplaced, to say the least.

"Assimilation is far more difficult now because the Arab and African Muslim communities are neither European nor Christian. They may be prepared to become a bit more European but would demand that, in exchange, other Frenchmen also become a bit more like them," Taheri writes.

"In other words what they demand is a new French identity, a synthesis of the traditional concept of Frenchness with new Arab, African and Islamic ones. You cannot play multiculturalism without admitting the possibility that your own culture may, at some point, be affected by other cultures, including ones that were once regarded as alien or even threatening."

Are other Muslim commentators weighing in? Use the comments section below to highlight other interesting views.

By Jefferson Morley | Permalink* | Comments (23) | TrackBack (1)
Posted at 07:48 AM ET, 11/11/2005
European Media See an American Gulag

From Iceland to Turkey, The Washington Post's Nov. 2 story, "CIA Holds Terror Suspects In Secret Prisons," has elicited denunciations and denials in the online media.

While every East European government denied the presence of secret CIA detention centers within their borders, Human Rights Watch's statement that it believes two such prisons are located in Poland and Romania was also widely reported in Europe. Together, the stories revived reports from last spring about flights of CIA-owned planes through various European airports that raised the possibility that so-called "torture flights" were transporting suspected terrorists to a European destination.

What rankled most commentators is the possibility that European governments have been made complicit in the U.S. policy of secret detention and interrogation unbound by international law, especially East European democracies that only threw off communism 16 years ago.

"The reaction can hardly be strong enough if the United States has sneaked the serious violation of the European view of human rights inside the EU's door," said the Copenhagen daily Politiken (in Danish).

In Poland, Peter Gentle of Radio Polonia said the Post story came "as a bit of a shock to Poles. Most – maybe all – people I have spoke to just can’t believe a word of it. A Guantanamo Bay type prison in the middle of northern Poland? Don’t be ridiculous. "

Gentle described the evidence to support the claim of a prison in Poland as "dodgey, to say the least," adding that Poles "won’t believe that there are any [secret prisons] in Poland until physical evidence of these camps is uncovered before their very eyes."

The headline on his column evoked incredulity: "CIA Gulags--in Poland?"

Hungarians "were already aware of the fact that the United States was keeping people captive in secret locations without charging them, without judicial control or time limits," said Gabor Horvath, writing in Nepszabadsag (in Hungarian), a Budapest daily. "The new information is that, with the President's knowledge, the CIA has kept this secret even from US legislators and that it has also involved East European democracies in this."

Horvath doubted that the prisoners had been held in Hungary, merely transported through its borders. Nonetheless, he said President Bush "owes an apology and detailed explanations not just to US voters but also to the friends of the democratic United States. He has already caused enough headaches to the latter."

In Turkey, a columnist for the Yeni Safak newspaper said "human smuggling sponsored by governments is gradually becoming a nightmare for the entire world... Are we going to cover up operations, unlawful acts, and crimes against humanity committed by the CIA or on its behalf in this country?" Ibrahim Karagul predicted the "secret torture centres" in Eastern Europe will be recorded in history as "the United States' Auschwitzs."

In Slovakia, a columnist for the influential left-of-center daily Pravda (not to be confused with Russia’s Pravda) quoted President Bush as saying, "Successful societies protect freedom with the consistent and impartial rule of law, instead of selectively applying the law." Now, says Miloslav Surgo, Bush’s CIA "is keeping people without trial in secret prisons … in countries that are so proud of having rid themselves of secret prisons a few years ago."

In France, Le Monde asked "has the United States, which has defended human rights and the moral values of democracy throughout the world for such a long time, come to ask European countries, NATO members and protagonists in the European Union, to do ‘the dirty work’ on exported jihadist detainees? . . . Such an attitude toward the Old Continent would be one of utter arrogance and even contempt."

The Bush administration's “eloquent refusal to comment," wrote Artur Blinov in the Russian daily Nezavisimaya Gazeta, makes it "increasingly obvious that these scandalous prisons do exist, and on the territory of the former Eastern bloc." The headline on his column: "Washington's GULAG in Eastern Europe."

By Jefferson Morley