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To: Solon who wrote (41241)	11/13/2005 7:40:31 PM
From: Carolyn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

A Somali arrives in Minneapolis as a new immigrant to the United States. He stops the first person he sees walking down the street and says," Thank you Mr. American for letting me in this country, and giving me housing, food stamps, free medical care and free education!" But the passerby says "You are mistaken, I am Mexican." The man goes on and encounters another passerby. "Thank you for having such a beautiful country here in America!" The person says "I no American, I Vietnamese." The new arrival walks further, and the next person he sees he stops, shakes his hand and says "Thank you for the wonderful America!" That person puts up his hand and says "I am from Middle East, I am not an American!" He finally sees a nice lady and asks suspiciously, "Are you an American?" She says, "No, I am from Russia!" So he is puzzled, and asks her, "Where are all the Americans?" The Russian lady looks at her watch, shrugs, and says... "Probably at work!"

To: Solon who wrote (41241)	11/14/2005 5:53:22 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

"What contract?" In terms of Britain it was an act of citizenship. We were British citizens until 1947--and the Queen is still our head of State. Canadians did not have Canadian passports? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_Canada Even if one could successfully argue a legal independence (which they can't for the period in question)--one could not separate Canada from a moral obligation to the British Commonwealth of which we remain a part. So since 1867 we have been operating under the misapprehension that Canada is an independent nation. It appears that in fact it is no more so than California. Both have their own legislatures, constitutions, and leaders- -but BOTH are subject to the final judgement of a higher power- -in your case, for much of your history, the British Parliament and in ours the Federal legislature and Supreme Court. MORAL obligation? OK. Then the US had a moral obligation to aid the Hungarians rebels in 1956- -and didn't. Moral obligations are worth the paper they aren't written on. Speaking of which: Your queen has apparently decided to put combat troops into Iraq. Where are yours? Still in their barracks, it seems. "There's a problem here. You expect 70-year-old men to fight wars?" How about a 45 year old man? Why not draft them first? They have experience and judgement to beat the band... They're too experienced. They have the judgement NOT to do what is needed to beat the other guys 18-year-olds. So YOU lose.

To: Solon who wrote (41241)	11/14/2005 6:32:17 PM
From: SiouxPal	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 90947

Latest Gallup poll by kos Mon Nov 14, 2005 at 02:55:51 PM PDT Gallup. 11/11-13. (10/28-30 results) Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling his job as president? Approve 37 (41) Disapprove 60 (56) * Two-thirds of independents and 91% of Democrats disapprove of the job Bush is doing. Even among Republicans, who have solidly backed Bush in the past, 19% express disapproval -- a new high. * For the first time -- albeit by a narrow 49%-48% -- a plurality disapprove of the way Bush is handling the issue of terrorism. Six in 10 disapprove of the way he's handling foreign affairs, the economy, Iraq and immigration, and 71% disapprove of him on controlling federal spending. * A 53% majority say they trust what Bush says less than they trusted previous presidents while they were in office. In a specific comparison with President Clinton, those surveyed by 48%-36% say they trust Bush less. * A record high 60% say going to war in Iraq was "not worth it." In a finding consistent with previous polls, 54% say it was "a mistake" to send troops there. And more signs of the Bush Albatross Syndrome: Fewer than one in 10 adults say they would prefer a congressional candidate who is a Republican and who agrees with Bush on most major issues, according to a USA TODAY/CNN/Gallup Poll taken Friday through Sunday. Even among Republicans, seven of 10 are most likely to back a candidate who has at least some disagreements with the president.