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To: American Spirit who wrote (260102)11/14/2005 5:32:07 PM
From: d[-_-]b  Respond to of 1573433
 
as,

re:Our advanced civilization has no reason to be clubbing seal babies. They're barbarian and awful. And of course it will have an effect. The balance of nature will be knocked off. Either the seals or their predators will suffer. And rich people don't need seal fur jackets. It ought to be illegal along with whaling and the rest of the 19th century type trafficking. They used to say the ocean would never run out of fish. Guess what? It is.


Yuck - fish skin jackets.



To: American Spirit who wrote (260102)11/14/2005 5:39:27 PM
From: combjelly  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573433
 
"They used to say the ocean would never run out of fish. Guess what? It is."

Sure. When you harvest above the maximum sustained yield(MSY), you get a fall off in production. Simple resource management. Which almost never is applied to the fishing industry. In Texas, populations of sports fish like speckled trout, redfish and flounder are monitored and the catch and size limits by both sports fisherman, who are economically powerful, and commercial fisherman, who are not, are set. And the laws enforced. So we have healthy populations of those fish. Protecting the marsh lands helps too.

You just made my point. Clubbing the seals didn't knock the balance of nature off, they weren't harvested at a high enough rate for that. All it meant was some who might have starved to death because fur seals are really quite numerous, didn't. It was ugly, so I never participated. But putting resources into shutting the industry down was stupid. Those resources would have been better spent on protecting wetlands and organisms who were actually endangered.

Protecting the environment is an important task, and shouldn't be swayed by "cuteness". There also has to be a balance struck between what needs to be protected and economic interests. You can't stop houses from being built, but you can stop them from being built on wetlands.