To: Ilaine who wrote (2130 ) 11/16/2005 1:11:34 AM From: Maurice Winn Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 220190 CB, I haven't seen a Korean green-grocer yet. Chinese are commonly running vegetable shops [and traditionally ran market gardens before the latest generation moved into medicine etc]. If I judge Kiwis by the shelf space allocated in supermarkets, their average dietary behaviour is much like American. Come to think of it, British and Belgian and Canadian supermarkets are much the same. As are Australian. Indian and Japanese are quite different. French supermarkets are pig in mud time for me, with beautiful nectarines [I have no idea why they are unavailable in NZ and I KNOW they grow here as my grandmother had a nectarine tree and they were fantastic - nectarines are available but they'd be best used for making wallpaper paste], cheese and other yummies. For some reason, in NZ, where we have huge numbers of cows and a vast dairy industry, cheese is absurdly expensive. I suppose I should go into the business and do it cheaper and better [along with my other 'to do' things]. As in USA and elsewhere, NZ doesn't have an "average" diet. Some supermarket trolleys are loaded up with heart attack, diabetes, obesity, cancer etc [and those holding the trolleys usually match the contents]. Others are full of good stuff. Some are loaded with booze. Some are heavy carnivores. Some vegetarian [women are the vegetarians here - blokes, of the real-men variety, wouldn't be seen dead without their chops wrapped around a dead animal]. I dare say that Koreans and other eating "strange meats" are really just people who have been on starvation diets historically and any food is good food. Maoris used to have a human component in their diet. After a good marauding, they'd take the bodies and hostages and have a good supply of meat for a while. The slaves would work and be eaten, as required. In the early 19th century, they'd tattoo some slave's face, then kill him, process and dry his head, then sell it to the curious foreigners who were visiting. Now, such curios are being returned [without payment of course] and there are lots of them. It's rather grotesque that those whose ancestors did the butchery are now coming over all sanctimonious and maudlin and wanting the bits back to moon over. When women had 10 children, somehow or other, they had to nearly all die without reproducing, or humans would have been like rabbits in hill country New Zealand, covering the landscape. That problem was solved in part by having constant wars and sending lots of young males to acquire more territory or die in the attempt. I'm glad that that way of resolving population pressure is pretty much a thing of the past, though Islamic Jihad seems to still be operating on that basis. Mqurice