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To: carranza2 who wrote (147214)	11/16/2005 10:49:49 AM
From: DMaA	Respond to of 793916

Another of Darwin's discredited notions - man is somehow superior to his "lowly" animal cousins. Man still bears in his bodily frame the indelible stamp of his lowly origin.

To: carranza2 who wrote (147214)	11/16/2005 11:17:43 AM
From: Thomas A Watson	Respond to of 793916

The problem is, that evolution in fact is not ultimately obedient to the laws of physics. Well we could throw out thermodynamics. In the why of biology a creator is as scientific as relevant as Darwinism. Those who are ignorant of science don't seem to get it. What is gravity, an electric field, a magnetic field, a photon, an electron, a proton, a neutron?????? "all biological processes are ultimately obedient" to what... beats me. "The full importance of Darwin’s theory can be better understood by realizing that modern biology is guided by two overwhelmingly powerful and creative ideas. The first is that all biological processes are ultimately obedient to, even though far from fully explained by, the laws of physics and chemistry. The second is that all biological processes arose through evolution of these physicochemical systems through natural selection. The first principle is concerned with the how of biology. The second is concerned with the ways the systems adapted to the environment over periods of time long enough for evolution to occur — in other words the why of biology." Or In God we trust.

To: carranza2 who wrote (147214)	11/16/2005 11:59:41 AM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793916

While that was a very good article overall, it is a little wide of the mark in explaining evolution wrt to natural selection. In the modern view, there is lively debate about the significance of a number of mechanisms, natural selection being but one of them. Darwin's brilliance was in seeing the big picture, while not actually understanding much of the detail, which was beyond the scope of both the mathematics and science of his day. The modern tragedy is that so many people who are blessed with at least a casual understanding of the underlying biology, fail to grasp the big picture, but instead reject evolution.

To: carranza2 who wrote (147214)	11/16/2005 2:40:42 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793916

Evolution obviously has still got plenty of its relentless work to do: <Thus it is surpassingly strange that half of Americans recently polled (2004) not only do not believe in evolution by natural selection but do not believe in evolution at all. Americans are certainly capable of belief, and with rocklike conviction if it originates in religious dogma. In evidence is the 60 percent that accept the prophecies of the Book of Revelation as truth, and yet in more evidence is the weight that faith-based positions hold in political life. Most of the religious Right opposes the teaching of evolution in public schools, either by an outright ban on the subject or, at the least, by insisting that it be treated as “only a theory” rather than a “fact.”> Rocklike is about it. Rocks are notably unimaginative, mindless, steadfast and true. One can carve one's name or face in a mountain of rocks and stand as long as the pyramids of Egypt. Evolution takes care of them. Evolution and erosion. While they sit stupidly there, immutably believing their rock-like fantasies, the world moves on. Mqurice