To: Bilow who wrote (175144 ) 11/19/2005 11:18:52 PM From: Hawkmoon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 The military is not a suitable force for fighting criminal activity, corruption, or Al Qaeda. It all depends upon what part of the military you're referring to.. Armor against mountain hideouts??.. Yep.. you're right.. Infantry operating in hostile city streets without armor protection or QRF (Black Hawk Down)??.. Yep.. you're right again... Trying to use conventional infantry and armor forces to take out a wide-spread network of entrenched and p*ssed off Sunni Ba'thist insurgents (cooperating and facilitating Al Qai'da activities)?? Yep.. you're right again... Unfortunately, the people best able to turn the tide of battle in post-OIF Iraq are SpecOPS people.. The guys training and advising the Iraqi security forces... But there isn't enough of them... (never are)..With Iraq, we broke it so that won't work anymore. Of course you actually believe that Iraq wasn't ALREADY broke... Dude... who do you think invited Al Qai'da into Iraq after OIF?? It was the Ba'thists... Or more appropriately, the Sunni tribal members who had CONTROL over the Ba'th party... The question is whether they had been Salafists all along, infiltrating the Ba'thist with Jihadist views... OR... Whether they are using AQIZ as their own version of "Bukanin", used to "kick out the supports" of the current government while the Ba'thist infiltrate and provide use of their Sunni ties to provide safe havens for AQIZ. At least until the day they can take back control of Iraq, at which point AQIZ will become a threat and a nuisance (or a tool to be applied to other rival countries..) In my opinion, after being here over a years, there are a HELL of a lot of former Ba'th party members involved in AQIZ, including quite a few former Intelligence officers. So why would "secular" Ba'thists suddenly be involved with hardline Jihadists?? The Ba'thists have FAR MORE MONEY than Al Qai'da.. (Saddam's people socked away $$$BILLIONS overseas)... But as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter.. Secret AQIZ supporters in Ba'thist "sheep's clothing", or Ba'thist operatives trying to run a "false flag" operation via Zarqawi.. It doesn't matter to me.. There all "targets" that need to be eliminated.. Hawk