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To: Peter Dierks who wrote (2286)11/17/2005 3:32:55 AM
From: haqihana  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71588
 
Peter, That is great. Now if we could get the liberal democrats to fess up that the really said those things.



To: Peter Dierks who wrote (2286)11/17/2005 12:21:29 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 71588
 
That destroys the lefties.

But the "news" media will never let a word of it out.



To: Peter Dierks who wrote (2286)11/17/2005 2:20:08 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 71588
 
Only conservatives or right wing TV evangelists are subject to scrutiny when it comes to calling for an assassination.

The MSM was outraged when Pat Robertson suggested what to do with Hugo Chavez. Why aren't they just as outraged at their own Chris Matthews?

"FEINGOLD: Of course now. And it‘s wrong. And you ought to here what Robert Mugabi is saying about us in Zimbabwe right now. If we followed this kind of an idea...

MATTHEWS: Well here‘s a guy we ought to knock off. But you just don‘t do it."

And Sen. Feingold carried on the discussion!

...............................................................Where's the MSM Outrage? Chris Matthews calls to "knock off" Robert Mugabi of Zimbabwe
MSNBC ^ | 16 Nov 2005 | Chris Matthews

MATTHEWS: Welcome back to HARDBALL. ...

Russ Feingold is here with us this evening. Thank you, senator....

MATTHEWS: ....This is the neocon argument. That right, somehow makes might and right and everything, it isn‘t working.

FEINGOLD: Of course now. And it‘s wrong. And you ought to here what Robert Mugabi is saying about us in Zimbabwe right now. If we followed this kind of an idea...

MATTHEWS: Well here‘s a guy we ought to knock off. But you just don‘t do it.

FEINGOLD: But the point is we shouldn‘t be worrying about who we should knock off and who‘s a bad guy and who‘s a good guy. What we should be concerned about is the safety of the American people. What‘s our top priority? Our top priority is stopping the people who attacked us on 9/11. Knocking over Saddam Hussein is a good thing, but it didn‘t relate to that issue.

msnbc.msn.com



To: Peter Dierks who wrote (2286)11/17/2005 5:57:09 PM
From: paret  Respond to of 71588
 
Here is a winner:
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College Professor to Student: Real Freedom will come when American Soldiers Murder Superiors
Young America’s Foundation. ^ | Nov 17, 2005 | Young America’s Foundation.

HERNDON, VA –Warren Community College English professor, John Daly, said that “Real freedom will come when soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors.” Rebecca Beach, a freshman at Warren Community College in Washington, New Jersey, received this unexpected reply to a recent email she sent the faculty at her school announcing the appearance of decorated Iraq war hero, Lt. Col. Scott Rutter, on Thursday, November 17 to discuss America’s accomplishments in Iraq.

In the email, Daly told Rebecca that he will ask students in his English and writing classes to boycott the event and also vowed “to expose [her] right-wing, anti-people politics until groups like [Rebecca’s] won’t dare show their face on a college campus.” Daly’s mean spirited and hateful comments were directed at Rebecca for organizing Lt. Col. Scott Rutter and for hanging up fliers contrasting the number of people killed under communism to those liberated under Ronald Reagan.

Since Professor John Daly has created a hostile learning environment for Rebecca, she is demanding that Warren Community College President William Austin institute seminars on free speech and sensitivity to teach intolerant leftists, such as Daly, to be respectful of differing opinion

Daly’s insane email to Rebecca also claimed that “CAPITALISM has killed many more” people than communism [emphasis his] and that the “poor and working class people” are recruited to “fight and die for EXXON and other corporations.”

“John Daly was hired to teach English, not to verbally attack students and lead leftist protests,” said Jason Mattera, spokesman for Young America’s Foundation.

The full unedited text of Daly’s email follows.

November 13, 2005

Dear Rebecca:

I am asking my students to boycott your event. I am also going to ask others to boycott it. Your literature and signs in the entrance lobby look like fascist propaganda and is extremely offensive. Your main poster "Communism killed 100,000,000" is not only untrue, but ignores the fact that CAPITALISM has killed many more and the evidence for that can be seen in the daily news papers. The U.S. government can fly to dominate the people of Iraq in 12 hours, yet it took them five days to assist the people devastated by huricane Katrina. Racism and profits were key to their priorities. Exxon, by the way, made $9 Billion in profits this last quarter--their highest proft margin ever. Thanks to the students of WCCC and other poor and working class people who are recruited to fight and die for EXXON and other corporations who earning megaprofits from their imperialist plunders. If you want to count the number of deaths based on political systems, you can begin with the more than a million children who have died in Iraq from U.S.-imposed sanctions and war. Or the million African American people who died from lack of access to healthcare in the US over the last 10 years.

I will continue to expose your right-wing, anti-people politics until groups like your won't dare show their face on a college campus. Real freedom will come when soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors and fight for just causes and for people's needs--such freedom fighters can be counted throughout American history and they certainly will be counted again.

Prof. John Daly



To: Peter Dierks who wrote (2286)11/17/2005 8:41:12 PM
From: Geoff Altman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71588
 
A must read if you haven't already:

realclearpolitics.com



To: Peter Dierks who wrote (2286)11/18/2005 9:49:22 AM
From: paret  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71588
 
A Traitor's Tirade: Rep. John Murtha Soils The Corps (by Gunny Bob Newman, Marine Corps veteran)
Gunny Bob's weekly column posted at his 850am KOA website ^ | Thrusday November 17th, 2005 | Gunny Bob Newman

*** Note *** Gunny Bob's Friday evening show on 850am KOA from 7pm to 10pm (mountain time) will be devoted to this topic. Details below.

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GUNNY BOB'S COLUMN NOVEMBER 17, 2005:

A Traitor's Tirade: Rep. John Murtha Soils The Corps

In a statement that has angered, embarrassed and humiliated Marines around the globe, one of our own -- a retired Marine Corps Reserve colonel -- has called for the legendary fighting force to retreat from Iraq and surrender to the terrorist organization that has killed thousands of Americans at home and abroad. He has even called for the United States to enter into negotiations with al Qaeda. This vermin’s demand for retreat, surrender and negotiations with the enemy is so committed to assisting al Qaeda in their efforts in Iraq that he has posted his unspeakable demands on his website in the form of an official statement

John Murtha press release: house.gov

The traitor, Democratic Rep. John P. Murtha, agrees 100% with Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab al Zarqawi that the Marine Corps, which is mangling the enemy on a daily basis in Iraq and suffering comparatively light casualties, should lay down its arms, call it quits, and abandon the people they are defending in the fledgling democracy of Iraq.

Furious Marines from wars as far back as World War II are spitting mad at the cowardly colonel and many want his head on a stake in the middle of the Marine Corps Commandant's lawn. Personally, I would not soil that good earth with so vile and despicable a piece of offal.

Encouraging retreat is viewed as aiding the enemy by the Marines and is a violation of Article 104 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which is punishable by death. Currently serving Marines, active duty or reserve, who encourage surrender are in violation of Article 100 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, an offense also punishable by death. Because Murtha is retired, he is virtually assured of not being prosecuted.

However, he will be celebrated by al Qaeda and other terrorists around the world. At this very moment, al Qaeda communications specialists are likely prepping pieces of propaganda using Murtha’s traitorous tirade as a tool to recruit fresh killers by showing them that even an American Marine (apologies to Puller) believes his allegedly beloved Corps is so inept in battle that retreat and surrender are the Marines’ best option and perhaps should, in fact, be added for the first time to the Leathernecks’ vast, quasi-mythical repertoire of operational art and battlefield strategy.

Murtha joins the likes of traitor Clayton Lonetree, the Marine security guard who gave top-secret intelligence to the Soviets, and traitor Robert Garwood, the Marine who went over to the enemy during the Vietnam War and was involved in holding and abusing US prisoners of war in North Vietnam while wearing the uniform of the enemy.

The Marine Corps is famous for its members standing their ground and winning fights against outrageous odds. Battles with names like the Peking Legation, Belleau Wood, Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Iwo Jima, the Chosin Reservoir, Khe Sanh and Fallujah decorate the hallowed halls of Corps history. Especially repugnant is how Murtha is insisting upon surrender while the Marines are decimating the enemy en masse.

Marines should ask Murtha if Chesty Puller would order retreat and surrender before the enemy.

John "The Jellyfish" Murtha should be shunned by all Marines and, if possible, legal steps should be taken to prevent this betrayer from being buried in a national cemetery upon his demise.