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To: mistermj who wrote (175188)	11/17/2005 6:47:10 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 281500

What does Woodward's shameful revelation have to do with Scooter lying to the FBI and the grand jury? He STILL lied under oath and obstructed justice, no matter WHAT Woodward has to say. It just shows that people all throughout the chimp WH were leaking Plame's secret during the same period, and makes an organized conspiracy even more likely. None of which is lost on the pissed-off Fitzgerald, who know has reason and motivation to extend his mandate for two more years!

To: mistermj who wrote (175188)	11/17/2005 7:21:27 PM
From: Win Smith	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Bob Woodward's just-released statement, suggesting that on June 27, 2003, he may have been the reporter who told Scooter Libby about Joseph Wilson's wife, blew a gigantic hole in Patrick Fitzgerald's recently unveiled indictment of the vice president's former chief of staff. Maybe in the convoluted parallel universe of true believers it did. On the conventional reality front: WASHINGTON, Oct. 24 - I. Lewis Libby Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, first learned about the C.I.A. officer at the heart of the leak investigation in a conversation with Mr. Cheney weeks before her identity became public in 2003, lawyers involved in the case said Monday. Notes of the previously undisclosed conversation between Mr. Libby and Mr. Cheney on June 12, 2003, appear to differ from Mr. Libby's testimony to a federal grand jury that he initially learned about the C.I.A. officer, Valerie Wilson, from journalists, the lawyers said. The notes, taken by Mr. Libby during the conversation, for the first time place Mr. Cheney in the middle of an effort by the White House to learn about Ms. Wilson's husband, Joseph C. Wilson IV, who was questioning the administration's handling of intelligence about Iraq's nuclear program to justify the war. Lawyers involved in the case, who described the notes to The New York Times, said they showed that Mr. Cheney knew that Ms. Wilson worked at the C.I.A. more than a month before her identity was made public and her undercover status was disclosed in a syndicated column by Robert D. Novak on July 14, 2003. Mr. Libby's notes indicate that Mr. Cheney had gotten his information about Ms. Wilson from George J. Tenet, the director of central intelligence, in response to questions from the vice president about Mr. Wilson. But they contain no suggestion that either Mr. Cheney or Mr. Libby knew at the time of Ms. Wilson's undercover status or that her identity was classified. Disclosing a covert agent's identity can be a crime, but only if the person who discloses it knows the agent's undercover status. nytimes.com In conventional reality, June 12 is a couple weeks before June 27, but the way W's handlers are madly spinning things these days, I'm sure they'll find a way around that inconvenient temporal contradiction. The idea that some other W operative, not Libby and not Rove, told Woodward who told Libby who had no idea before that is , well, something a true believer could believe, but otherwise it's quite a stretch. All the Woodward relevation seems to show was that W's operatives were trying to blow Plame's cover for a longer time and among a wider range of "reporters" now revealed as willing flacks for W and his war marketeers than previously thought.