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To: Sully- who wrote (41521)	11/20/2005 1:58:11 AM
From: Lazarus_Long	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

LOL!!!!! You are a b*****d, you know it? :-)

To: Sully- who wrote (41521)	11/20/2005 3:04:04 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 90947

For you: GUNNYISM OF THE DAY: "Chesty is cursing in his grave tonight. One of his own has despoiled the general's grave by inciting surrender. May God have no mercy whatsoever on John Murtha's grave, once filled." 850koa.com

To: Sully- who wrote (41521)	11/20/2005 3:09:28 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 90947

"Cowards cut and run. Marines never do." That was the message a Marine commander in the field asked Rep. Jean Schmidt (R-OH) to pass on to Rep. Murtha, who put forward a resolution demanding that the Iraq deployment be immediately terminated, and the troops withdrawn as soon as practicable.

To: Sully- who wrote (41521)	11/20/2005 3:14:55 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 90947

Is Jack Murtha a Coward and a Traitor? November 20th, 2005 J. Peter Mulhern americanthinker.com The prize for the most dramatic oratory in the United States Congress in the new millennium goes to fledgling Representative Jean Schmidt. In the midst of debate over whether the House of Representatives should vote on a resolution endorsing immediate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq she conveyed a message she had received from an active duty Marine colonel, to Representative Jack Murtha. Murtha, a decorated Marine veteran, inspired the debate earlier this week by calling for withdrawal from Iraq. Representative Smith’s message quoting the colonel was simple: “Cowards cut and run, Marines never do.” Democrats are up in arms. They believe Smith slandered Murtha. No less a conservative voice than Jonah Goldberg seems to think they have a point. In the Corner at NRO he argues that Schmidt didn’t mean to call Murtha a coward and that it was a mistake to say anything that was bound to be interpreted that way. He writes: “Murtha’s an honest, brave and patriotic guy. He’s also wrong. But therein lies the debate.” Charging someone with cowardice, or worse yet disloyalty, isn’t something anyone should do lightly. Jonah Goldberg’s generosity and temperance do him credit. But he’s as wrong as he could be here. When people engage in debate within the boundaries of legitimate disagreement they should be respectful. But we need to maintain those boundaries. Jack Murtha’s call for immediate disengagement took him far outside the boundaries of legitimate disagreement. He has never been able to articulate any plausible basis for his position on Iraq. There is a simple reason for that. There isn’t one. Reasonable people cannot differ about whether or not the United States should press forward with our war against the terror masters. For the time being Iraq is inevitably the principal front in that war. A congressman who tries to duck his share of the responsibility for prosecuting that war is displaying moral cowardice. Any American who recommends retreat is injuring his own country and calling his own patriotism into question. Almost all the Democrats in the House understand this, which is why only three of them would vote on the record for retreat. We mark the boundaries of legitimate disagreement by the way we characterize arguments that lie outside them. What Jack Murtha did last week wasn’t just wrong. It was cowardly and disloyal. That’s the truth and Jack Murtha deserves to hear it. Thirty-five years ago he demonstrated that he had physical courage. This week he demonstrated that he lacks moral courage. There is no inconsistency here. Thirty-five years is a long time and physical courage is not the same thing as moral courage. Jack Murtha served the nation honorably and should be honored for it. But his service doesn’t establish that he is loyal now. Nobody ever did the Republic of Rome greater service than Julius Caesar who capped off his military career by fighting a civil war and destroying the republic. Jean Schmidt didn’t slander Jack Murtha and neither did any other House Republican. On the contrary, he and his views have been getting way too much respect from all sides. J. Peter Mulhern is a lawyer in the Washington, DC area.

To: Sully- who wrote (41521)	11/20/2005 11:28:47 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 90947

The Media will give us Murtha and his insane blubbering 24/7. Murtha's mouth - will extend the war and result in more American deaths in exactly the same manner as the "Peace Movement" did for Vietnam.

To: Sully- who wrote (41521)	11/20/2005 11:29:22 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 90947

Hey Murtha! If you're so nervous about troops being employed in foreign countries.... WHY DON'T YOU YELL ABOUT THE TROOPS CLINTON SENT TO BOSNIA ~ WHO ARE STILL THERE!

To: Sully- who wrote (41521)	11/20/2005 11:34:23 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 90947

This guy Murtha seems like a Cindy SHeehan wanna-be.

To: Sully- who wrote (41521)	11/20/2005 11:38:39 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 90947

Hey Murtha .. if so .. then why did you vote No on Friday???

To: Sully- who wrote (41521)	11/20/2005 11:39:13 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 90947

Will "Murtha" now become a synonym for "surrender" in the same manner "Quisling" has become a traitor?

To: Sully- who wrote (41521)	11/20/2005 11:44:58 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 90947

It's always sad to see a good man succumb to the Kool Aid of the looney left. What makes a once brave man turn so yellow inside as this? Many a Marine is rolling in his grave to hear one who was once one of them encourage their brothers to cut and run.

To: Sully- who wrote (41521)	11/21/2005 1:01:24 PM
From: paret	Respond to of 90947

Chrissy Matthews--"If we stop trying to figure out the other side, we've given up. The person on the other side is not evil -- they just have a different perspective." conservationtech.com