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To: American Spirit who wrote (47892)11/19/2005 3:01:36 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Ugly GOP Smear Stunt Fails Its Objective
by Armando
Fri Nov 18, 2005 at 07:49:16 PM PDT

The latest incarnation of the New McCarthyism, the ugly Duncan Hunter stunt - the so-called "Murtha" resolution - blew up in their face.

The NYTimes reported that:

House Republicans are attempting to split the ranks of the Democrats tonight by offering a resolution to withdraw American troops from Iraq immediately.

The vote on the rule to bring the Fake Hunter Resolution to the floor for a vote passed 210-202, but every every Democratic representative who voted, voted against the rule and 5 Republicans joined the Democrats.

Obviously, the Republican attempt failed.

The vote itself was unimportant substantively. But politically, it blew up in their faces.

The signature moment was, of course, the ugly attack on Murtha's character by Rep. Jean Schmidt - who called a decorated war veteran a coward. That said it all.

Republicans Walter Jones and Rick Renzi, along with the Democrats, spoke in defense of the character and patriotism of Murtha. By the end, the Republicans were denying that the resolution had anything to do with Murtha. Before they were labelling it the "Murtha Amendment."

The naked attack on dissent, this New McCarthyism, has been thoroughly discredited.

In short, the Republicans went after the wrong Marine.

This is an Open Thread to discuss the one hour debate that will now commence on the Fake Hunter Resolution.

Update [2005-11-18 21:56:28 by Armando]: Henry Hyde opens the debate by praising John Murtha as a "great American." Think that is what they had in mind when this started?

Update [2005-11-18 22:6:7 by Armando]: The Associated Press, again demonstrating the value of "editors, gets the facts completely wrong, and says that the House is voting on Murtha's Resolution. Honest to God, how do these people look themselves in the mirror. Please e-mail them, here is the page, and let them know we are well aware of their incompetence.

Update [2005-11-18 22:34:30 by Armando]: So now Murtha is a "giant" of the House. And now, an honorable debate seems to have ensued. Honestly, that is all anyone can ask for. And an honest debate on the Iraq Debacle is not exactly what Hastert and Hunter had in mind. But it is what the country needs.

Update [2005-11-18 22:53:2 by Armando]: GOP Rep. Geoff Davis - Wanker of the Day.



To: American Spirit who wrote (47892)11/19/2005 10:51:20 AM
From: longnshort  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Rep. Sam Johnson of Texas, who spent years in a prisoner of war camp in Vietnam. He told of how POWs learned about the lack of support back home.
"I know what it does for morale, I know what it does for our mission, and so help me God I will never let our nation make that mistake again."