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To: elmatador who wrote (2276)11/20/2005 3:35:13 AM
From: Maurice Winn  Respond to of 217804
 
All good points ElM, and I can relate to your descriptions. I never thought I was giving anything away by doing a good job instead of an indifferent, or bad one. It's no more difficult to do things well than badly. It's usually easier.

When I'm at work I'm paid to work so I might as well do it well.

It does get noticed, one way or another, even if nobody seems to be looking.

Finding honest people is great. Dishonest people have negative value or are at best very hard work. Being an honest person isn't difficult either. It's easier. And it gets rewarded a LOT.

I guess you have done a lot better than they did. I'm not surprised. Good for you.

Though I disagree with this: <He's is not intrinsically inferior intellectually vis a vis the white man.> Not in all intellectual respects [as far as I know], but in the intelligence department, that seems to be true, on average. Just as Ashkenazi Jews are far smarter than average melanin-deficient, on average. And some families are must higher, or lower, than average, on average.

Mqurice



To: elmatador who wrote (2276)11/20/2005 4:47:36 AM
From: critical_mass  Respond to of 217804
 
"You tell the black or the poor white what's good for them but they don't agree with you. He works against his own interest."

I don't disagree with point about inherent differences between cultures and the notion that different behaviors are reinforced positively within certain cultures.

OTOH, I cannot begin to count the number of acquaintances I have in the US, with an oversized house, oversized mortgage, oversized SUV, and an uncomfortable level of job (in)security who are college educated professionals brought up in an environment that encourages hard work and thrift.

Producing children with no means of support or risking the family's future via massive debt load to finance a McMansion and an SUV have a lot similarities, IMHO.

BTW:

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