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To: LindyBill who wrote (148083)	11/21/2005 8:59:06 AM
From: Lane3	Respond to of 793891

QUIT. It's that simple. There are plenty of more complex ways to lose a war, but none as reliable as just giving up. No, even when you quit a war, you have people arguing decades later that you didn't lose it... <g>

To: LindyBill who wrote (148083)	11/21/2005 9:08:04 AM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793891

Peters is incensed! Good for him! What do the Democrats fear? An American success in Iraq. They need us to fail, and they're going to make us fail, no matter the cost. They need to declare defeat before the 2006 mid-term elections and ensure a real debacle before 2008 — a bloody mess they'll blame on Bush, even though they made it themselves. It's just about time that someone tell the story and mentions the consequences!!!

To: LindyBill who wrote (148083)	11/21/2005 5:17:45 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 793891

LB, I was curious as to the back ground of both Ralph Peters and John (Jack) Murtha....Found these items, plus the link for Peters has a good interview from a couple of years ago. Ralph Peters - Lieutenant Colonel, U.S. Army usatoday.com Discuss the possible military campaign against Iraq with retired Lieutenant Colonel Ralph Peters. Risen from the enlisted ranks, Ralph Peters became an intelligence officer and a foreign area specialist for Russia and its borderlands. He has served in infantry units, in the Pentagon, and in the Executive Office of the President. His military career and personal interests have taken him to more than fifty countries. He is the author of Beyond Terror: Strategy in a Changing World and the highly-influential Fighting For The Future: Will America Triumph? John Murtha house.gov He learned about military service from the bottom up, beginning as a raw recruit when he left Washington and Jefferson College in 1952 to join the Marines out of a growing sense of obligation to his country during the Korean War. There he earned the American Spirit Honor Medal, awarded to fewer than one in 10,000 recruits. He rose through the ranks to become a drill instructor at Parris Island and was selected for Officer Candidate School at Quantico, Virginia. He then was assigned to the Second Marine Division, Camp Lejeune, North Carolina. In 1959, Captain Murtha took command of the 34th Special Infantry Company, Marine Corps Reserves, in Johnstown. He remained in the Reserves after his discharge from active duty until he volunteered for Vietnam in 1966-67, receiving the Bronze Star with Combat "V", two Purple Hearts and the Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry. He remained in the Reserves until his >>>