To: Srexley who wrote (714474 ) 11/21/2005 5:41:22 PM From: DuckTapeSunroof Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670 So... you just want to stand in the middle of this particular civil war, for generations possibly, until... what? Your mythical 'good guys' come around and stop your bleeding? (Does that happen before or after you drive our nation deep into debt? With some members of our armed forces having pulled three different tours in Iraq... just how many would you think you could send them on before readiness and enlistments and our force profile began to seriously suffer? What if our forces are needed elsewhere in the world?????? Costs must be measured against realistic benefits, don't 'cha know....) [which side in the civil war represent the 'good guys' to you?] "The shites, khurdish and all who are against the terrorists." AH! So you imagine that the Shiites are all 'good guys' (no religious extremists there! No 'bad guys' among them, eh? Not even their pals in Iran?) Apparently you have never heard of the Badr Brigades, nor the other dozen or so various Shi'a militias who have taken control in Basra.... Well, at least you have PICKED the side you want us to fight... You want us to fight the enemies of Shi'a, eh? Enemies of Iran? (Well I guess that's better then standing in the MIDDLE of a civil war and exposing oneself to pot shots from both sides....) Still, it's not nearly as fruitful a policy as *removing* ourselves from this little internecine Islamic religious and ethnic war... and letting the terrorists target each other, and take us out of their gunsights... and the region ultimately rationalizing it's borders, and settling it's conflicts.... "You have CLEARLY stated that we cannot win with the military as we are doing." No, I haven't... but our military leaders sure have. THEY are the ones who tell us that it is now up to 'winning the hearts and minds of the population' (to use the old Vietnam phraseology), and no longer 'winnable' in strict military terms. Hell, we WON the war (against Saddam's forces) in the matter of a few short days. This is now the *occupation*, and the resistence to the occupation (by a disparate collection of nationalists, and partisans of one faction or another), and the inter-Iraqi Civil War... which is another thing entirely.