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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: tejek who wrote (262179)	11/26/2005 1:05:04 PM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1572965

"War or no war, skirmishes or no skirmishes; the only places where there is true peace is with those countries that are true democracies." Never claimed anything different. But until they make the transition, is the only alternative is to allow them to run roughshod over their neighbors? "Bottomline: we are not using our enormous power and wealth for peace but to promote our agenda and secure our resources." Again, never claimed anything different. The US has been pretty much been running away from the idea of being an empire, despite having that role thrust on them during the last century. Partly due to tradition, there was a great deal of pride tied up in having the British lose interest in us. Partly because, despite loudly proclaiming that we weren't empire building, we proceeded to do just that until the Philippines. That proved to be such a ghastly quagmire that we retreated into isolationism until the byproduct of the collapse of the Ottoman empire sucked us back onto the world stage. It took two tries, but we did finally puts things to rights after most of Europe obliterated itself during WWII. We did well by Western Europe and Japan, not so well by Eastern Europe. "Bottomline: we are not using our enormous power and wealth for peace but to promote our agenda and secure our resources. That's why the world is not a very safe place right now and is probably in more danger of blowing itself up than it has been for 20 years." True, but the seeds of the collapse of the USSR were already planted 20 years ago. Now if you had said 25 years... We were a lot closer when the USSR was flexing its muscles in Afghanistan. If they hadn't of clotheslined themselves there, which they did with our help, we likely would have faced a newly expansionistic USSR. They would have started pressuring Europe, and that would have led to either a confrontation or the US retreating into isolation again. The Soviets had been building their military up to levels where they thought they were up to the challenge, but that wilted in the face of their much vaunted and very numerous equipment being taken out by cheap, man portable weapons we were supplying in abundance. Suddenly they were faced with having to rebuild their entire military. And they couldn't afford that. So their government split over what to do, with various factions fighting each other. When they took their eye off the ball of their empire, it teetered and fell. So there is little chance of the particular nightmare of another global war for a long time. Next opportunity would be mid-2020 with a large and aggressive China. But there are a lot of reasons to suspect that China won't be a growing economy for that long. There are a lot of simmering tensions that could very well pull it apart long before they get to that point. They have a looming banking crisis that will likely make many Chinese feel that the government has lost "the mandate of heaven". That has caused more than one Chinese government to fall. When it can't feed or protect the people any more, it happens. The farming peasants who aren't on the coast or along the major rivers aren't sharing in the economic boom that those areas enjoy. And they are growing unhappy with the disparity and the way the government is pandering to the booming areas. If they have a banking crisis and a severe recession, then the displaced farmers from the Three Gorges Dam might form the nucleus of a backlash that forces some serious changes. The biggest strength of the US is our Constitution. It is a major part of our identity. We are at our best when we follow its ideals. At our worst when we violate them for expediency sake.