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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (175967)11/27/2005 1:49:01 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
So you are trying to argue that the war, which the UN security council obviously did not agree with, was somehow "for" the UN, or under it's auspices. That's quite interesting. It strikes me as an utterly mad idea, but it's interesting. Needless to say, I don't agree with you- and I think the Iraq war was probably a violation of international law, and will be seen as such in the future.

Since I know as much about the UN, the resolutions, and the time line for Iraqi actions as you seem to, what we have here is not a disagreement on facts, but a disagreement about where the facts lead. That will not be resolved- ever. You clearly envision a different international order than I do, and are willing to let the US spend considerably more capital achieving your vision than I am. End of story.



To: Hawkmoon who wrote (175967)11/27/2005 3:25:16 PM
From: Noel de Leon  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
It's a common mistake to believe that UNSC actions depend on a majority vote,

Necessary but not sufficient are the operative words.

It's necessary to have a UNSC majority but not sufficient. Sufficient means no vetoes as well. Both conditions need to be present. Korea is the classic example in that the Soviet delegation didn't exercise its veto right.

Like it or not that is the way the UNSC works(or doesn't).