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To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (41991)11/27/2005 3:51:44 PM
From: Peter Dierks  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
The Softwood Lumber Dispute:
Who Do We Really Blame?
World/Terry Pearson

November 26, 2005 - So far all we have been hearing from the Canadian media is about Canada's side of the issue along with Paul Martin's so-called hard line stand. We hear nothing at all about the American side of the debate.

Last week that at the APEC conference, it was reported that Canada's Prime Minister Paul Martin "lectured" President Bush in private on the issue. (Imagine if you will, a sparrow squawking at an eagle). Then he publicly denounced the U.S. on softwood, not only at the APEC conference, but at the summit of the Americas as well.

In any event President Bush choose to ignore him, knowing all too well that Paul Martin is under notice that he (Martin) no longer has the moral authority to govern Canada.

A short time ago Paul Martin told Canadians that he was going to get tough with the US on softwood. He threatened to divert the sale of Canada's oil and softwood from the US to other countries.

First of all he would have to fight with Alberta's Premier Ralph Klein for the oil, and secondly the liberals have had 12 whole years to find global markets on softwood. But instead, it seems they choose to fight the Americans on the issue.

Paul Martin is in a situation is that he is leading a liberal minority government and there is a possible chance he may be dumped in the new year. So it's not hard to conclude that he is posturing himself over the issue of softwood in order to get himself re-elected. He is obviously appealing to anti-American sentiment in order to keep his job. He could care less about the Canadian lumber industry.

The softwood lumber dispute dates back hundreds of years. The CBC reports that even within Canada there are divisions. The B.C. Lumber Trade Council has argued a trade war with the Americans over softwood lumber would be costly and should be avoided by accommodating U.S. demands. The Free Trade Lumber Council, which includes lumber producers in Quebec and Ontario, wants to fight it out. What most Canadian foresters and governments do agree on is their goal of free trade in softwood lumber

Softwood lumber is easy-to-saw wood, such as spruce, cedar, pine, Douglas fir, and other coniferous trees, which is used for paper, fiberboard, framing, siding, fencing, and other applications. Canada is rich in softwood

The Canadian softwood industry employs 290,000 people. It's the main economy of of 300 Canadian towns. A third of softwood consumed in the U.S. is produced in Canada.

In March 200, the Canadian economy took a huge hit when the U.S. the levied tariffs on incoming Canadian lumber, and then two months later imposed an additional anti-dumping duty, charging that the Canadian lumber was being sold south of the border for less than it cost to produce.

The problem between the two countries is how the stumpage, fees are applied. Stumpage fees are the charge to harvest lumber. In the U.S. the timber is on private land and the rights are auctioned off to the highest bidder. Unlike the US, most of Canada's timber is on government land and stumpage fees are set by the Canadian government.

It's quite natural then that the U.S. would view this as a government subsidy. American producers allege that the Canadian government sets stumpage fees at an artificially low level, one-third to one-fourth the actual value, in order to keep Canadian lumber workers and sawmills busy. US producers claim this is a $4.4 billion (in Canadian dollars) annual subsidy of the industry. Therein lies the rub.

It's bad enough that the Bush administration has been under extreme pressure over the outsourcing of jobs to other countries so it's natural that they are going to do what they can in order to protect their own lumber industry.

As it stands, they are not about to wreak havoc within their borders for the benefit of Canada. Why should they? In an article to article to "The Weekly Standard," James Thayer writes that the US Coalition for Fair Lumber Imports, claims these Canadian subsidies have almost ruined the United States softwood industry.

So how do the Canadian liberals handle the issue? Here is an example. International Trade Minister Jim Peterson issued the following statement on Wednesday regarding the NAFTA countervailing duty panel’s rejection of a US Department of Commerce (DOC) request for clarification on the panel’s latest decision on softwood lumber.

“Canada has strongly opposed any initiatives to delay doing the right thing. We will keep up the pressure to see NAFTA respected. Here is a prime opportunity for the US to demonstrate its commitment to the treaty it signed, plain and simple."

It's quite clear that when the NAFTA agreement was worked out, more attention should have been given to the area of softwood, but according to Peterson, "the right thing" to do is to bash the US over the head with the NAFTA agreement and trade rulings by the courts. The socialist minded liberals hold their noses in the air, with the attitude that Canada won't negotiate away it's resources. How absurd can they be. Can you blame the Americans for their stalling tactics.

The liberals have no idea when it comes to doing business with the U.S. The Americans are capitalists. Unlike Canada, they base their economy on how well their private industry functions, not what the government can provide

It would seem then that the way to do business with the U.S. is to sit down at table with them and talk business. We let them know that we have softwood lumber for sale at a good price. It would benefit the American building industry.

Of course the way we set our stumpage fees has a negative affect the US lumber industry. So lets negotiate and strike a balance, and yes the lumber industry will be some what affected on both sides of the border, but over a period of time, and as the economy grows, the free market would correct the deficiencies of the lumber industries in both countries. It's a win win situation.

But this will never happen as long as the liberals are in power in Canada. Conservative leader Stephen Harper has concluded that the softwood standoff is due to the sour relationship between the Liberal party and Washington.

It's fashionable amongst liberal circles, in Canada to call the US President a moron, not to mention that his administration include a "bunch of ignorant bastards." To top it all off, Paul Martin sticks his nose in the air and walks away from the US missile defense negotiations. Since we don't really have an army here, Paul Martin wants the US to protect us but he's not willing to pay for it.

The Americans have shown their sincerity on this issue. On his visit to Canada, President Bush extended a friendly hand to Paul Martin. Just recently he U.S. House of Representatives has voted to repeal a controversial trade law that allows American companies to benefit directly from the duties Washington collects on imports from Canada and other countries.

Under the Byrd amendment of 2000, American lumber companies would stand to receive the $5 billion in duties that have been collected on Canadian softwood lumber imports into the US

So far, that money is still in the treasury of the US government while the long-running softwood dispute winds its way through Canada's liberal agenda..

As Mr. Harper puts it, we have to show the Americans that were are their friends and stand shoulder to shoulder with them. This way we can look them in the eye.

For example, can look them in the eye and tell them, of course we support your efforts on the war on terror in Iraq. We don't have the man power to spare but we will do what we can to help you out in Afghanistan.

Do you know what I think? I think the Americans are stalling the softwood issue until such time as Canada elects a Conservative government.

Terry Pearson has the Canadian Conservative Web Site called “The Right Point”



To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (41991)11/27/2005 4:14:39 PM
From: Solon  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 90947
 
Here is another list of "best cities" First place: Charlottesville, VA

msnbc.msn.com

"How did you decide who makes it to the top?

PETER: "We look at over a hundred pieces of information about each place. We group those into nine categories — including, economy and jobs, cost of living, climate, education, arts and culture. We add in a factor for intangibles and another for consistency across categories, press a button, and voila."


"Cities Ranked and Rated": The Top 50

(I guess it is just American cities)

1 Charlottesville, VA
2 Santa Fe, NM
3 San Luis Obispo-Atascadero-Paso Robles, CA
4 Santa Barbara-Santa Maria-Lompoc, CA
5 Honolulu, HI
6 Ann Arbor, MI
7 Atlanta, GA
8 Asheville, NC
9 Reno, NV
10 Corvallis, OR
11 Roanoke, VA
12 Portland-Vancouver, OR-WA
13 Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill, NC
14 Bryan-College Station, TX
15 Lynchburg, VA
16 Olympia, WA
17 Norfolk-Virginia Beach-Newport News, VA-NC
18 Colorado Springs, CO
19 Nassau-Suffolk, NY
20 Pueblo, CO
21 Eugene-Springfield, OR
22 Austin-San Marcos, TX
23 Lafayette, IN
24 Minneapolis-St. Paul, MN-WI
25 Dover, DE
26 Washington, DC-MD-VA-WV
27 Fayetteville-Springdale-Rogers, AR
28 Pittsburgh, PA
29 Bloomington, IN
30 Stamford-Norwalk, CT
31 State College, PA
32 Abilene, TX
33 Champaign-Urbana, IL
34 Athens, GA
35 Wichita, KS
36 Fort Worth-Arlington, TX
37 Madison, WI
38 Bellingham, WA
39 Las Cruces, NM
40 New York, NY
41 Dayton-Springfield, OH
42 Bloomington-Normal, IL
43 Sarasota-Bradenton, FL
44 Bremerton, WA
45 Albuquerque, NM
46 Harrisburg-Lebanon-Carlisle, PA
47 Evansville-Henderson, IN-KY
48 Tampa-St. Petersburg-Clearwater, FL
49 Punta Gorda, FL
50 Columbia, SC
51 Peoria-Pekin, IL
52 Des Moines, IA
53 Naples, FL
54 Los Angeles-Long Beach, CA
55 Richmond-Petersburg, VA
56 Gainesville, FL
57 Fort Lauderdale, FL
58 Ocala, FL
59 Tacoma, WA
60 Denver, CO
61 Mansfield, OH
62 Grand Junction, CO
63 Charleston-North Charleston, SC
64 Melbourne-Titusville-Palm Bay, FL
65 Orange County, CA
66 Daytona Beach, FL
67 New London-Norwich, CT-RI
68 Boise City, ID
69 West Palm Beach-Boca Raton, FL
70 Tucson, AZ
71 Boston, MA-NH-ME
72 Medford-Ashland, OR
73 Middlesex-Somerset-Hunterdon, NJ
74 San Diego, CA
75 Barnstable-Yarmouth, MA
76 Philadelphia, PA-NJ
77 Johnson City-Kingsport-Bristol, TN-VA
78 Vallejo-Fairfield-Napa, CA
79 Indianapolis, IN
80 Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson, SC
81 Greensboro-Winston-Salem-High Point, NC
82 Jacksonville, NC
83 Wilmington-Newark, DE-MD
84 Salt Lake City-Ogden, UT
85 Sacramento, CA
86 Goldsboro, NC
87 Fargo-Moorhead, ND-MN
88 Seattle-Bellevue-Everett, WA
89 Greeley, CO
90 Muncie, IN
91 Lexington, KY
92 Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN
93 San Antonio, TX
94 Columbus, OH
95 Dallas, TX
96 Missoula, MT
97 St. Louis, MO-IL
98 Charlotte-Gastonia-Rock Hill, NC-SC
99 Little Rock-North Little Rock, AR
100 Sioux Falls, SD
101 Kokomo, IN
102 Fort Wayne, IN
103 Knoxville, TN
104 Decatur, IL
105 Galveston-Texas City, TX
106 Billings, MT
107 San Francisco, CA
108 Green Bay, WI
109 Memphis, TN-AR-MS
110 Columbus, GA-AL
111 Tuscaloosa, AL
112 Altoona, PA
113 Waterloo-Cedar Falls, IA
114 Richland-Kennewick-Pasco, WA
115 La Crosse, WI-MN
116 Fresno, CA
117 Appleton-Oshkosh-Neenah, WI
118 Hamilton-Middletown, OH
119 Springfield, MO
120 Lubbock, TX
121 Corpus Christi, TX
122 Reading, PA
123 Atlantic-Cape May, NJ
124 Santa Cruz-Watsonville, CA
125 Miami, FL
126 Lakeland-Winter Haven, FL
127 Bangor, ME
128 Fort Collins-Loveland, CO
129 Las Vegas, NV-AZ
130 Kansas City, MO-KS
131 Janesville-Beloit, WI
132 South Bend, IN
133 Tulsa, OK
134 Orlando, FL
135 Eau Claire, WI
136 St. Cloud, MN
137 Jamestown, NY
138 Tyler, TX
139 New Orleans, LA
140 Akron, OH
141 Salem, OR
142 Boulder-Longmont, CO
143 Longview-Marshall, TX
144 Rochester, MN
145 Bridgeport, CT
146 Provo-Orem, UT
147 Ventura, CA
148 Duluth-Superior, MN-WI
149 New Haven-Meriden, CT
150 Davenport-Moline-Rock Island, IA-IL
151 Nashua, NH
152 Fort Walton Beach, FL
153 Salinas, CA
154 Killeen-Temple, TX
155 Chicago, IL
156 Savannah, GA
157 Grand Rapids-Muskegon-Holland, MI
158 Houston, TX
159 Lawton, OK
160 Anchorage, AK
161 Oklahoma City, OK
162 Lansing-East Lansing, MI
163 Fort Pierce-Port St. Lucie, FL
164 Augusta-Aiken, GA-SC
165 Oakland, CA
166 Santa Rosa, CA
167 Louisville, KY-IN
168 San Jose, CA
169 Trenton, NJ
170 Riverside-San Bernardino, CA
171 Brazoria, TX
172 Wilmington, NC
173 Providence-Fall River-Warwick, RI-MA
174 Mobile, AL
175 Cumberland, MD-WV
176 Bergen-Passaic, NJ
177 Redding, CA
178 Jackson, MS
179 Baltimore, MD
180 Greenville, NC
181 Danbury, CT
182 Cheyenne, WY
183 Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX
184 Hagerstown, MD
185 Casper, WY
186 Lancaster, PA
187 Johnstown, PA
188 Terre Haute, IN
189 Columbia, MO
190 Spokane, WA
191 Iowa City, IA
192 Auburn-Opelika, AL
193 Parkersburg-Marietta, WV-OH
194 Lawrence, KS
195 Bismarck, ND
196 Springfield, IL
197 Topeka, KS
198 Milwaukee-Waukesha, WI
199 Sheboygan, WI
200 Yolo, CA
201 Omaha, NE-IA
202 Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton, PA
203 Monmouth-Ocean, NJ
204 Yuma, AZ
205 Buffalo-Niagara Falls, NY
206 Nashville, TN
207 Cedar Rapids, IA
208 Wausau, WI
209 Decatur, AL
210 Chattanooga, TN-GA
211 Visalia-Tulare-Porterville, CA
212 Great Falls, MT
213 St. Joseph, MO
214 Rochester, NY
215 Clarksville-Hopkinsville, TN-KY
216 Williamsport, PA
217 Steubenville-Weirton, OH-WV
218 Birmingham, AL
219 Saginaw-Bay City-Midland, MI
220 Fort Myers-Cape Coral, FL
221 Sherman-Denison, TX
222 Vineland-Millville-Bridgeton, NJ
223 Lincoln, NE
224 Kenosha, WI
225 El Paso, TX
226 Huntsville, AL
227 Waco, TX
228 Huntington-Ashland, WV-KY-OH
229 Amarillo, TX
230 Lowell, MA-NH
231 Rockford, IL
232 Burlington, VT
233 Charleston, WV
234 Flint, MI
235 Manchester, NH
236 Portland, ME
237 Kalamazoo-Battle Creek, MI
238 Enid, OK
239 Pensacola, FL
240 Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY
241 Binghamton, NY
242 Shreveport-Bossier City, LA
243 Pittsfield, MA
244 Flagstaff, AZ-UT
245 Jackson, MI
246 Syracuse, NY
247 Monroe, LA
248 Lake Charles, LA
249 Tallahassee, FL
250 Fayetteville, NC
251 Springfield, MA
252 Panama City, FL
253 Hartford, CT
254 Hickory-Morganton, NC
255 Albany, GA
256 Dothan, AL
257 Jonesboro, AR
258 Montgomery, AL
259 Grand Forks, ND-MN
260 York, PA
261 Newark, NJ
262 Jersey City, NJ
263 Detroit, MI
264 Cleveland-Lorain-Elyria, OH
265 Yakima, WA
266 Myrtle Beach, SC
267 Toledo, OH
268 Florence, SC
269 Florence, AL
270 Sioux City, IA-NE
271 Scranton-Wilkes-Barre-Hazleton, PA
272 Elkhart-Goshen, IN
273 Phoenix-Mesa, AZ
274 Sumter, SC
275 Gary, IN
276 Lima, OH
277 San Angelo, TX
278 Canton-Massillon, OH
279 Pocatello, ID
280 Brockton, MA
281 Chico-Paradise, CA
282 Bakersfield, CA
283 Odessa-Midland, TX
284 Rapid City, SD
285 Glens Falls, NY
286 Worcester, MA-CT
287 Portsmouth-Rochester, NH-ME
288 Elmira, NY
289 Utica-Rome, NY
290 Victoria, TX
291 Youngstown-Warren, OH
292 Fitchburg-Leominster, MA-NH
293 Biloxi-Gulfport-Pascagoula, MS
294 Wichita Falls, TX
295 Baton Rouge, LA
296 Texarkana-Texarkana, TX-AR
297 Lafayette, LA
298 Danville, VA
299 Benton Harbor, MI
300 Hattiesburg, MS
301 Rocky Mount, NC
302 Macon, GA
303 Owensboro, KY
304 Jackson, TN
305 Wheeling, WV-OH
306 Joplin, MO
307 Racine, WI
308 Sharon, PA
309 Erie, PA
310 Dutchess County, NY
311 Dubuque, IA
312 Waterbury, CT
313 Lewiston-Auburn, ME
314 Brownsville-Harlingen-San Benito, TX
315 Yuba City, CA
316 Modesto, CA
317 McAllen-Edinburg-Mission, TX
318 Jacksonville, FL
319 New Bedford, MA
320 Houma, LA
321 Alexandria, LA
322 Fort Smith, AR-OK
323 Anniston, AL
324 Gadsden, AL
325 Pine Bluff, AR
326 Lawrence, MA-NH
327 Kankakee, IL
328 Merced, CA
329 Newburgh, NY-PA
330 Stockton-Lodi, CA
331 Laredo



To: Lazarus_Long who wrote (41991)11/27/2005 6:28:12 PM
From: average joe  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 90947
 
The Vancouver Stock Exchange? It has been out of business for quite a few years - better stick with pink sheet stocks.

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