To: haqihana who wrote (715382 ) 11/28/2005 1:36:53 AM From: Peter Dierks Respond to of 769667 "If someone is truly a legal immigrant, and has something to offer for this nation, he should be able to receive citizenship as long as he meets all of the requirements, and above all, rejects his citizenship in where ever he came from, and become a full time American..." Artificial restriction of supply of any product or service does not work for long periods of time and causes resentment of those who are demanding the product. Demand for immigration is a service just like any other. The cost is measured many ways. Currency, inconvenience, risk of loss of life, morality, and there must be many more. America has an artificially low supply of immigration allocations. We restrict immigration rights from people who want nothing more than an opportunity to advance their economic life and their freedoms. The ones with a weak moral fiber turn to illegal means to achieve what they cannot obtain legally. (This turns ordinary motivated foreigners into thieves.) Many risk their lives to get here. All risk being deported any day. Costs can be imposed. We could sell them in a modified dutch auction. There would be priority ones available at a high price for those not willing to wait. The allocated slots not sold at that price would be sold at a dutch auction in which everyone paid the lowest price bid which sells all slots. We could impose costs such as you propose: "Every candidate for citizenship should be investigated to prevent the wrong kind of people i.e. criminals, spies, malcontents, etc. from becoming citizens." "There are hundreds of thousands of American citizens that do not believe in the American way, and hold no allegiance to America. That has to stop!!" One problem is that they believe in an American way, just not our founders' way or the same way you and I believe in. Some believe that we should be a French style communist America in which all people are guaranteed a minimum amount of money at the cost of onerous regulations and incentive killing taxes. Others believe that we can live as Jesus did, without actually mentioning or acknowledging Jesus. Some believe that it was ok for the President of their party to lie under oath, but that the President of their opponent's party was wrong while their party's politicians were right to use pre-liberation intelligence. The bottom line IMO is that we need an American conference such as the Christian conference in Nicia. Over 16 centuries ago the different sects agreed what they believed in common (a least common denominator) and the result was the Nicean Creed. Many old line Christian churches still recite it every Sunday. If we could pin down what the minimum standards were for being an American, we could start to come back together.