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To: epicure who wrote (176068)	11/28/2005 9:26:00 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

What you write is conventional wisdom. If Bush believes what he believes and is more interested in how historians define his presidency that todays talking heads, i would think he would not do this. Hamilton said this is why the presidency was four years, so you could ignore public opinion when you thought it was in the national interest to do so. Churchill would have ignored public opinion for instance. I am coming to the conclusion that the old nursery rhyme, Humpty Dumpty sort of describes the current situation in iraq "all the kings horseman and all the kinks men couldnt put HD back together again." I hope bush is more believing this than Mccain who thinks we should send in more troops to hold ground which somehow will change the equation. Personally i think insurgents will just move to another town. ESCALATION kills and if we go that route would need the 500k troop level that military opponents of the war talked about initially. mike

To: epicure who wrote (176068)	11/28/2005 9:55:40 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

What you write is conventional wisdom. If Bush believes what he believes and is more interested in how historians define his presidency that todays talking heads, i would think he would not do this. Hamilton said this is why the presidency was four years, so you could ignore public opinion when you thought it was in the national interest to do so. Churchill would have ignored public opinion for instance. I am coming to the conclusion that the old nursery rhyme, Humpty Dumpty sort of describes the current situation in iraq "all the kings horseman and all the kinks men couldnt put HD back together again." I hope bush is more believing this than Mccain who thinks we should send in more troops to hold ground which somehow will change the equation. Personally i think insurgents will just move to another town. ESCALATION kills and if we go that route would need the 500k troop level that military opponents of the war talked about initially. mike

To: epicure who wrote (176068)	11/28/2005 11:32:34 AM
From: Bill	Respond to of 281500

What's this? Have we kissed the theatre of the absurd goodbye? And now we have liberty or death.

To: epicure who wrote (176068)	11/28/2005 1:16:12 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Rumor is Bush will announce significant withdrawals or something like that on Wednesday. After all, Dumbya has been planting this particular seed for a very long time ever since DumbyaRummy said we'd be down to 30,000 troops very soon after the invasion. Besides, the Iraqi government has said: timetable, where's that timetable Dumbya? Why does Rummy still have a paying job? Biden has already called him an absolute idiot. Everything he's done has led to chaos and death. Maybe someone in the DOD needs to leak embarrassing emails about Rummy's clothing before he gets kicked out of office.