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To: Hawkmoon who wrote (176399)	11/29/2005 9:55:10 PM
From: geode00	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Hawkmoon, you do not appear to understand the information. Plame did not send her husband anywhere as she had no authority to do so. I believe this is the third time I'm telling you this information. If you wish to believe everything the corporate media tells you then do so. Considering that both the WashPost and the NYTimes have apologized for their inability to get the story of the war straight, I treat them both with more skepticism. In addition, the Senate has gotten all of the war rationale completely wrong and still hasn't bothered to do the second phase of its investigation. Just as Murtha said the American Public is ahead of Congress on getting the soldiers out of Iraq, so too are progressives miles ahead of everyone in understanding the lying that went on and still goes on about Iraq. Your guys: WRONG. My guys: CORRECT. "...But there is a big question hanging over Tenet's account. For Britain vehemently rejects American claims that the Niger link was based solely on the forged documents or that it supplied any intelligence on the Niger connection to the CIA. 'The information in the British Government's September dossier regarding Niger categorically did not come from the forged Italian documents; it came from our own source. That information was not passed on to the US,' said an intelligence source last week. 'It was an entirely separate and credible source.' On one crucial issue Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, in his letter released yesterday, does agree with the US version of events. He admits that the CIA did warn Britain against including claims on the Niger connection in the Government's September dossier on WMD. 'The media have reported that the CIA expressed reservations to us about the [Niger] element of the September dossier,' he said. 'This is correct. However, the US comment was unsupported and UK officials were confident that the dossier's statement was based on reliable intelligence which we had not shared with the US.' The consequence of the gulf between these two positions is a new crisis over the intelligence on Iraq that is no longer limited to either just Britain or the US. For the first time Washington and London now point their fingers at each other.... observer.guardian.co.uk When you say crappola like this: "Everyone at the CIA obviously KNEW who Plame was married to." provide factual support for it. If you can't then you're a liar or perhaps you are having a memory lapse.

To: Hawkmoon who wrote (176399)	11/29/2005 11:10:12 PM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Ahhh, Hawk...Just shows you how obviously wrong and silly some twits are. Evidently some folks with blinders on didn't read the 3inch Intel report of the 9-11 Commission...or any of the papers.... What I'm wanting to know is WHO in the CIA authorized Wilson's trip, who signed the travel vouchers and expense account, PLUS did he EVER send a report to Cheney...the man Wilson originally said sent him. Not only Cheney said he had never even heard of Wilson, he didn't send him, BUT even the report said that Plame had recommended her husband to go.... Most of us know that, but the rest of the folks who don't, just continue calling everyone a liar... just consider the source....<ggg>