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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: jlallen who wrote (715980)	11/30/2005 3:04:31 PM
From: Bill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

where have you seen Lieberman's face? The same place I saw that Murtha and the Dems voted against their own rhetoric, 403-3: Nowhere.

To: jlallen who wrote (715980)	11/30/2005 3:18:13 PM
From: cnyndwllr	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Jlallen, I notice you post about me but don't post to me. Now why is that? Oh, that's right. You're the "attorney action hero" who allowed fellow posters to put his years of service together with his service connected disability and conclude that he was a wounded combat veteran. Of course when asked about it you always demurred, stating that those who've been there don't talk about it. But then you slipped up and talked about it. Nice service in the JAG core. How many of you got zipped? None? Well how many of you got wounded? None? Well did any of you get close enough to hear the sounds of battle in the first gulf war? Wanna be war wimps make me sick. Now, about all the "sky is falling" fears about "thousands of body bags" that you attribute to "eddie and his ilk," maybe you'd like to reference just one post where I said anything like that? You won't find it. Don't make up straw men you can't prop up with a noodle. Ed

To: jlallen who wrote (715980)	11/30/2005 4:51:15 PM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

We will not achieve victory, as Bush defines it, during his term of office. We will still have troops there when he leaves office. Bush was expecting a 90 day war.

To: jlallen who wrote (715980)	11/30/2005 5:18:14 PM
From: trouthead	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

There will never be enough good things that come from this war to justify the way it was started and executed. We'll have to live with it as it's already happened. I hope that peace and prosperity come to the middle east. But even if it does I won't look at this war as the blueprint on how to deal with the problem of rouge states much less terrorism. It is simply wrong and fallacious to claim that Iraq was part of the war on terror. We should have been more diligent in verifying the intel. Perhaps when you read the stories about Niger and Curveball and Chalabi you are satisfied that we had enough on which to go to war. I am not. I hope the lesson we learn from this is to have our house in order before we make a pre-emptive strike against anyone. We are Americans and hold ourselves out as an example to the rest of the world. For the most part we do a great job. But because we are an example when we transgress it is doubly hurtful to ourselves and the world that looks to us. I hope we do better in the future, but I fear we won't learn any lessons because no matter how many die or how much goes wrong people will point to the good things that happened and use that as justification for all the pain. Instead of looking at the pain as reason to do it better next time.