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Politics : Just the Facts, Ma'am: A Compendium of Liberal Fiction -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (42497)	12/4/2005 8:13:47 PM
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The bottom line is that Bush was right to remove Saddam based solely on the facts. The Iraq Survey Group report provides ample evidence to support those facts. The Gulf War Cease Fire Agreement - AKA - UN Resolution #687, was a ZERO TOLERANCE policy. That meant Saddam had to; 1) Completely eliminate every aspect of his WMD PROGRAMS (not just "stockpiles"). This included provisions for the complete destruction of all offensive weapons. This had to be done in a completely verifiable manner to UN Inspectors. 2) Saddam had to completely eliminate every tie to terrorists (internal & external). 3) Saddam had to completely halt his crimes against humanity. 4) Saddam had to make full reparations to Kuwait, ET AL. Now this was the short & sweet version. There were absolutely no provisions that allowed any deviation from each explicit requirement. It meant 100%, unconditional compliance. Every single UN Resolution, including Resolution 1441 was irrevocably tied to #687. Saddam spent more than 12 years in utter defiance of every one of the above requirements before Bush's so-called "rush to war". You know, where "Bush lied & misled" America into a "unilateral", "illegal" war to take over their oil for his Big Oil cronies? Text of UN Resolution 687 dalebroux.com Comprehensive Report of the Special Advisor to the DCI on Iraq’s WMD cia.gov

To: Solon who wrote (42497)	12/4/2005 8:23:59 PM
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And yes, it's another liberal MSM & DNC myth that removing Saddam was only about "stockpiles" of WMD's & nothing else. Bush repeatedly mentioned Saddam's genocide. And he repeatedly mentioned ties to terrorists. And he repeatedly mentioned WMD Programs (not just "stockpiles"). Here's irrefutable proof that the MSM & DNC revised history to suit thier anti-Bush agenda: Message 20911765 Message 21150613 Message 21273612 Message 21466458 Message 21556716 Message 20620056

To: Solon who wrote (42497)	12/4/2005 8:27:00 PM
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The Black Book of Saddam Hussein Little Green Footballs A new 700-page book published in France details the nightmarish dirty deeds of Saddam Hussein: <<< The big black book of horrors. The obsession of many journalists and commentators with the fruitless hunt for chemical, biological and nuclear weapons has meant much of the evidence of Saddam’s atrocities in liberated Iraq has been under-reported. Sinje Caren Stoyke, a German archeologist and president of Archeologists for Human Rights, catalogues 288 mass graves, a list that is already out of date with the discovery of fresh sites every week. “There is no secret about these mass graves,” Stoyke writes. “Military convoys crossed towns, full of civilian prisoners, and returned empty. People living near execution sites heard the cries of men, women and children. They heard shots followed by silence.” Stoyke estimates one million people are missing in Iraq, presumed dead, leaving families with the dreadful task of finding and identifying the remains of their loved ones. Abdullah Mohammed Hussein was a soldier fighting in the mountains when Iraqi troops took the Kurdish village of Sedar and deported three-quarters of the inhabitants, including his mother, his wife and their seven children. They were taken to a concentration camp at Topzawa and from there some were taken to an execution ground near the archeological site of Hatra, south of Mosul. The remains of 192 people have been found, 123 women and children and 69 men, among them Abdullah’s wife and three of their children. There is no trace of his mother and the other four children. They were victims of the genocidal Anfal campaign, which sought to exterminate the Kurds. Between February and September 1988, 100,000 to 180,000 Kurds died or disappeared. The bombing of the Kurdish village of Halabja with chemical weapons including mustard gas, tabun, sarin and VX on March 16, 1988, which killed 3000 to 5000 civilians, was the most publicised of these atrocities because it occurred near the Iranian border and Iranian troops were able to penetrate with the assistance of Kurds, filming and photographing the victims. Halabja was not an isolated case however. Saddam used chemical weapons at least 60 times against Kurdish villages during Anfal. >>> (Hat tip: Lady of Shalott.) littlegreenfootballs.com theaustralian.news.com.au